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Gary Z. (If forwarding, PLEASE delete address from body of e-mail!) wrote:
| Interesting discussion but one that sends a strong message that newbies
| who want to use Linux as a desktop with plug&play shouldn't.

That is not the message that should be conveyed.  For best results the
drive should probably be formatted to a more linux friendly file system
anyway.

| I have a Seagate FreeAgent 320MB that I bought (for backups) on sale
| ($85) around Xmas time at MemXpress. I haven't yet plugged it into my
| Windows or Linux box. Just laziness.
|
| If you think I understand haldaemon or plugdev, guess again.

Not sure what that has to do with anything.

| Then I read about the following problem (though there are some fixit
| solutions that work for some):
|
| Problem:
|
http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/07/seagate-freeagent-drives-not-down-with-linux/
| Solution(s): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494673
|
| I expect I can plug it into my Windows box without problems, but doing
| it will be proof of the pudding. And who knows, maybe I will be lucky
| with Ubuntu.

The solution in the ubuntu forum requires some work on your part.
Interestingly, one of the guys on the Ubuntu forum has a sig that sums
up my perspective perfectly:

"The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man
understands what will sell"
- --Confucius

I no longer care about catering to the user who takes no personal
responsibility.  If someone chooses their OS based on trivial demands,
then so be it.   The strength in FLOSS software is that the developers
have the freedom to do what is right without having to worry about
meeting sales targets.


| Gary
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>; "CLUG General"
| <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
| Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:12 AM
| Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Ubuntu and USB drives
|
| haldaemon did the trick.  The plugdev was already setup as a secondary
| group - needed to add haldaemon.  logged out, then in, and was able to
| create a directory.
|
| But my main complaint still stands.  This is not "low maintenance".  It
| means that for every box I may use, or every user that I set up on those
| boxes, I also need to add the haldaemon group.  This is still better
| than having to mess with file ownership/permissions though.  So it's a
| step in the right direction.
|
| (I think I'm getting lazy in my old age - I just don't want to have to
| fight an OS to make it do what I think it should be doing by default... :)
|
| Shawn
|
| [snip]
|
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