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Robert Lewko wrote:
> If you actually look at resource usage vim uses within 10% of the
> resources that emacs does!� In terms of flexibility of what you get out

vi != vim

> of an editor you can't compare what vim will give you compared with how
> configurable emacs is.� I use vi/vim-tiny where I want to change one

It should be noted that I am not particularly invested in this topic.
For what I need, vim suits my needs perfectly and emacs is just not
worth the time given how little time I spend coding.

> line in a configuration file, mostly because it is done in the same
> window as the terminal.� However, when I want to have a real editor
> which is comfortable for extended coding sessions, has no "modes" and�

Perhaps I am not a real coder.  If I need to spend more than 2 hours
writing something, it means this task is meant for someone else.

> which helps me with formatting the code the way I want, I rely on a real
> editor.� Hey, if its good enough for Richard Stallman its good enough
> for me!

For learning C I use Kdevelop or Eclipse, and sometimes I will use vim
(I actually like using vim).  I don't really care since I just need to
get the job done.  Most my time is spent in Powershell these days, so
this topic is moot.

These days I see the arguments as a historical footnote.  I don't
actually know any programmers who use emacs these days, and only a
handful who use vim.  There are too many IDEs and everyone has their
favourite.

Also, I am not about to
> 
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Robert Lewko wrote:
>> see below...
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Gustin Johnson
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> 
>> John Jardine wrote:
>>> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
>>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
> 
>> This will install gcc/g++ etc. ýEverything you need to compile. ýThis
>> does not install an IDE, but then you have a few to choose from.
> 
>>> After that I'd D/L Eclipse, but substitute your preferred
> environment.
> 
>> I would use the version of Eclipse from the Eclipse web site
> instead of
>> the one packaged in Ubuntu. ýOf course I probably just KDevelop or
> more
>> likely vim.
> 
>>> Vim is for people too inept to learn emacs ;)
> 
> Emacs... because Microsoft just wasn't good enough at bloating
> software :)
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