Hi Robin,

Which installer did you use? What was your impression of the installers?
I think the version X.0 's tend to be the most "fun filled" :)

I want to do an install soon, but have to look at some hardware issues
first. As soon as I can acquire
some spare time. From the sound of things, I think acing my data backup will
lead to a more auspicious
adventure.

Mel


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Richard Carter <[email protected]>wrote:

> Thanks for all the help.  Last night I took the bit in my teeth and did a
> fresh install of debian 6.0.0 amd6.  KDE now starts ok but I still have some
> fine tuning to do.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Rick Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> and... according to the specs on that mobo, you have a Radeon HD 4250
>> which should work just fine with the xorg-radeon driver. Its included with
>> Debian so there's no need to mess with the proprietary stuff.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Rick Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, thats weird. startx should be there as long as xorg is installed.
>>> Anyways, lets go with the original problem... $DISPLAY is an environment
>>> variable which you should not need to deal with unless the upgrade mussed up
>>> some of the config somewhere. Try this: log in as your normal user and 'mv
>>> ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc.old' and 'mv ~/.xsession  ~/.xsession.old'. This will
>>> get these files out of the way for the time being (and back them up if case
>>> we need to put them back) and hopefully, kde can now start and create new
>>> versions of them. Kaboom is a migration wizard to go from kde3 to kde4 and i
>>> suspect it may have caused the problem.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Richard Carter 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tips.  I have tried "startx" but got "command not found".
>>>>  The version of debian testing I'm using is amd64.  I believe the video 
>>>> card
>>>> is embodied in the motherboard; Gigabyte GA880-GM-UD2H.
>>>>
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Rick Johnson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and btw, i also am using testing and ran a dist-upgrade last night.
>>>>> Xorg was upgraded so i had to re-do the nvidia drivers. very likely this 
>>>>> is
>>>>> your problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Rick Johnson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Btw, i see you're running a 64-bit processor but are you also running
>>>>>> 64-bit Debian? Here's some instructions for building the nvidia driver:
>>>>>> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers If i remember right,
>>>>>> there's some differences with the 64-bit procedure which you'll have to
>>>>>> google if thats what you need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Rick Johnson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The kernel headers are required to re-compile the kernel module but
>>>>>>> but in the upgrade, only the source packages are upgraded. you still 
>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>> go through the process of building the module.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Joseph Hume 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On my daughters Kubuntu 10.10 laptop if there is a kernel update I
>>>>>>>> just need to install the matching kernel headers to allow the
>>>>>>>> nvidia video driver to properly install before I reboot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/7/2011 9:35 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> did you try 'startx'? And btw, upgrades or dist-upgrades should be
>>>>>>>> done without kde running (or gnome etc.). '/etc/init.d/kdm stop', log 
>>>>>>>> in as
>>>>>>>> root and then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Otherwise you 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> going to upgrade packages that are running at the time and you can 
>>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>>> break things this way. Also, if you are using a ATI or nvidia card with
>>>>>>>> proprietary drivers, you will need to re-install the driver if X or the
>>>>>>>> kernel is upgraded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Richard Carter <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I have been running debian 6.0 testing on a desktop with an amd64
>>>>>>>>> processor.  Before shutting down last night I used synaptic to check 
>>>>>>>>> for and
>>>>>>>>> install upgrades: many were installed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  This morning kde won't start.  When I boot the system goes into
>>>>>>>>> what I interpret as "terminal mode".  When I type in "startkde" as 
>>>>>>>>> user I
>>>>>>>>> get "DISPLAY is not set or cannot to the X server".  When I type 
>>>>>>>>> "startkde"
>>>>>>>>> as su I get:
>>>>>>>>> ------ Kaboom Settings Dump------
>>>>>>>>>   kdehome - "/root/.kde" - exists? YES
>>>>>>>>>   kde4 - "/root/kde4" - exists? NO
>>>>>>>>>   kdebackup - "/root/kde3-backup" exists? NO
>>>>>>>>>   kdestamp = "/root/.local/kaboom" exists? NO
>>>>>>>>>   kaboom log - "/root/.kaboom.log"
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> kaboom cannot connect to X server
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I tried using apt-get to install kde but was told the newest
>>>>>>>>> version was all ready installed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Fortunately I already have a recent backup.  I have downloaded
>>>>>>>>> debian 6.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso and I'm considering 
>>>>>>>>> re-installing.  Does
>>>>>>>>> anyone have a better idea?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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