I _think_ a smart phone is what I need.  I have considered just using a netbook.

I'm now in the real estate property services area.  When I'm at a property I 
need to take pictures and I need to make notes.  The easiest way I can think of 
would be voice->text with the data being stored in a file.  I don't really need 
the G3 data capabilities for that.  However I would like to send and receive 
emails.  Currently my emails arrive in my servers and I use ssh.  If I install 
ssh in the phone then I cna access them.

What I really like about the Motorola Atrix is that it has HDMNI and USB and a 
nice docking station so it can drive a real KB and mouse and display... which I 
can mount in the vehicle.  Thus I have a mobile office.

Back in my office I can sycn it (tether as you say).  But I really don't think 
I'll need to do much of that in the field.

What I will need to do is xmit log notes and pics to my son's office.  I can do 
this via two (2) methods.  1) Use the G3 system and 2) find a WiFi hot spot.

There are times when a GPS tied into maps would be useful.  In this area there 
is a different solution I would like to find.  I expect to be in the dessert 
some day in China 100's of miles from cell towers and I would like to pick up 
GPS coords as in Lat Long.  These need to end up in my notes files so that if 
we find something interesting and want to take pictures and make notes that the 
lat long has been automatically recorded.

Finally I think it might be useful to be able to access the servers but again 
WiFi is likely good enough.

The main purpose is a PDA and the phone side of things is a bonus.

What in fact would work is pure data so I can just send an email out and 
receive them.  IE - a netbook will do the job.  But its pretty akward as a 
camera.  I could use a mic and Skype.

What I am left with is the idea that the Atrix will do everything.  

I did some checking and I'm left with the impression Google thinks we should 
program it in Java.  Persomally I really prefer C/C++.  I think maybe it can do 
either.




On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:54:39PM -0600, Neil B wrote:
> Is your requirements for an actual phone/PDA (access to mail and calendar
> but not primary interface) or do you want a "modem" that you can use a
> netbook (for example) to use as the interface?
> 
> I have an HTC Hero from Telus that runs Android. I have not rooted it
> because I have not had the need to do so to perform the necessary
> requirements I wanted. This was the ability to use the built in GPS, use the
> camera, create and use my own ring tones, take pictures that can be accessed
> from the device via a USB cable, use it as a phone, have a working caller
> ID, access a MS exchange server (for work), access my personal
> email/calendar (currently hosted on Google) - both of which is mostly used
> to receive the emails moreso than to actually reply to those emails, have an
> automated backup of my contacts hosted away from the phone, send SMS
> messages, and use various other social media/network interfaces. I also have
> the ability to tether my pc (or netbook) to my phone to provide a data
> connection and use the data allocation I have within my plan.
> 
> All of this rambling is leading to the point that is a smart phone the
> ultimate or right device you want to be using for your tasks? Just because a
> device can perform a task does not mean you want to be using it to perform
> that task on a regular bases. Smart phones are good for some tasks if you
> need access in an emergency. Other times it is best to be working on a real
> pc with a familiar interface (hardware and software).
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> ~Neil
> 
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:20 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > It is.  I know I want to install some deamons to upload files to my servers
> > and I'll want ssh and bash and other than this I don't know.  I'll be
> > looking for an emulator which can run under probably Ubuntu and KDE
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:17:29PM -0600, Mark Carlson wrote:
> > > In my experience, you do not need root access to develop your own app
> > > and use it on your (Android) phone. Is that what you were asking
> > > about?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:12 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > It looks to me the best is the Motorola Atrix which with a 3 year
> > contract from Bell is 0 down as I recall + $50 fpr voice and data.
> > > >
> > > > What about getting root access?  Why should this void the warrenty?  Is
> > there some procedure one needs to go through to become a developer?
> > > >
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