If the distribution updates the kernel, there was probably a good reason for it (bug fixes and security patches most likely). In other words if it was a part of the regular released updates, why would you not update?
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Josh G <[email protected]> wrote: > Pardon me for asking, but why the need to upgrade your kernel? > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:35 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Send clug-talk mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of clug-talk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: June Meeting (Greg King) >> 2. Upgrade problem (Shawn) >> 3. Re: Upgrade problem (Shawn) >> 4. Re: Upgrade problem (Gustin Johnson) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 21:36:38 -0600 (MDT) >> From: Greg King <[email protected]> >> To: CLUG General <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] June Meeting >> Message-ID: <293823614.709636.1370489798072.JavaMail.root@cds015> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Same situation for me - weekly Wednesday evening commitment unless it >> rains. >> >> >> Greg >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Ralph Boland" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June, 2013 10:46:36 AM >> Subject: [clug-talk] June Meeting >> >> >> >> >> I have softball games to umpire for both Wednesdays and probably for most >> of the rest of the >> summer. >> >> Unless my games get rained out, see you in the fall. >> >> >> Ralph Boland >> >> >> >> >> -- >> It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows. -- >> Epictetus >> _______________________________________________ >> clug-talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> **Please remove these lines when replying >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://clug.ca/pipermail/clug-talk_clug.ca/attachments/20130605/33d74a65/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 22:28:46 -0600 >> From: Shawn <[email protected]> >> To: CLUG General <[email protected]> >> Subject: [clug-talk] Upgrade problem >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Trying to update my server system (Ubuntu 12.04-LTS) to hopefully >> address the latest security issues making the rounds. But I keep >> getting a failed dependency: >> >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# apt-get install -f >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> Correcting dependencies... Done >> The following extra packages will be installed: >> linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae >> The following packages will be upgraded: >> linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae >> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded. >> 2 not fully installed or removed. >> Need to get 0 B/4,204 B of archives. >> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. >> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of >> linux-image-generic-pae: >> linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae; >> however: >> Package linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae is not installed. >> dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic-pae (--configure): >> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic-pae: >> linux-generic-pae depends on linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.41.49); >> however: >> Package linux-image-generic-pae is not configured yet. >> linux-generic-pae depends on linux-headers-generic-pae (= >> 3.2.0.41.49); however: >> Version of linux-headers-generic-pae on system is 3.2.0.45.54. >> dpkg: error processing linux-generic-pae (--configure): >> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a >> followup error from a previous failure. >> >> No apport report written because the >> error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. >> >> >> >> Errors were encountered while processing: >> linux-image-generic-pae >> linux-generic-pae >> >> >> This problem originally started when my /boot partition filled up. I >> manually deleted some files, and then ran the command(s) >> >> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40}-generic-pae >> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40} >> >> This should have purged any old kernels. >> >> If I list the kernels with "dpkg -l | grep generic-pae" I see the >> following: >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers >> ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45 3.2.0-45.70 >> Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.2.0 >> ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 >> Linux kernel headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> ii linux-headers-generic-pae 3.2.0.45.54 >> Generic Linux kernel headers >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep generic-pae >> iU linux-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 >> Complete Generic Linux kernel >> ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 >> Linux kernel headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> ii linux-headers-generic-pae 3.2.0.45.54 >> Generic Linux kernel headers >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic-pae 2.6.35-22.35 >> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> ii linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic-pae 2.6.35-28.50 >> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic-pae 2.6.35-30.61 >> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-31-generic-pae 2.6.35-31.63 >> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic-pae 2.6.35-32.65 >> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> ii linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic-pae 2.6.38-13.55 >> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86 >> rc linux-image-3.0.0-19-generic-pae 3.0.0-19.33 >> Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86 >> ii linux-image-3.0.0-20-generic-pae 3.0.0-20.34 >> Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86 >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic-pae 3.2.0-32.51 >> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic-pae 3.2.0-33.52 >> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic-pae 3.2.0-34.53 >> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 >> Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> iU linux-image-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 >> Generic Linux kernel image >> >> >> At this point, I *think* I should only have >> linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae installed, so I'm not sure how to >> resolve this issue. >> >> Any tips? The online stuff says the apt-get -f install should "just >> work" now... I think it's wrong. :) >> >> Shawn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 01:09:16 -0600 >> From: Shawn <[email protected]> >> To: CLUG General <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Upgrade problem >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> I think I resolved this. >> >> If you look at the output of my "dpkg -l" command, you'll see >> >> iU linux-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic >> Linux kernel >> >> and >> >> iU linux-image-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux >> kernel image >> >> It says right there that these two packages are depending on >> 3.2.0.41.49, but everything else is depending on a 3.2.0.45.x version. >> So, I purged those two items via >> >> dpkg --purge linux-generic-pae >> dpkg --purge linux-image-generic-pae >> >> And then ran the apt-get -f install command to fix any broken installs. >> It didn't report errors this time. apt-get upgrade is now running. >> And if I do a listing again these packages are now reporting >> dependencies on the .45.x version of the kernel. >> >> Crisis averted. Now the real test will be to reboot the server and see >> if I broke anything. I mean I did purge EVERY kernel except the latest... >> >> Shawn >> >> On 13-06-05 10:28 PM, Shawn wrote: >> > Trying to update my server system (Ubuntu 12.04-LTS) to hopefully >> > address the latest security issues making the rounds. But I keep >> > getting a failed dependency: >> > >> > root@terra:/home/sgrover# apt-get install -f >> > Reading package lists... Done >> > Building dependency tree >> > Reading state information... Done >> > Correcting dependencies... Done >> > The following extra packages will be installed: >> > linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae >> > The following packages will be upgraded: >> > linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae >> > 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded. >> > 2 not fully installed or removed. >> > Need to get 0 B/4,204 B of archives. >> > After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. >> > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? >> > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of >> linux-image-generic-pae: >> > linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae; >> > however: >> > Package linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae is not installed. >> > dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic-pae (--configure): >> > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic-pae: >> > linux-generic-pae depends on linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.41.49); >> > however: >> > Package linux-image-generic-pae is not configured yet. >> > linux-generic-pae depends on linux-headers-generic-pae (= >> > 3.2.0.41.49); however: >> > Version of linux-headers-generic-pae on system is 3.2.0.45.54. >> > dpkg: error processing linux-generic-pae (--configure): >> > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> > No apport report written because the error message indicates its a >> > followup error from a previous failure. >> > >> > No apport report written because the >> > error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. >> > >> > >> > >> > Errors were encountered while processing: >> > linux-image-generic-pae >> > linux-generic-pae >> > >> > >> > This problem originally started when my /boot partition filled up. I >> > manually deleted some files, and then ran the command(s) >> > >> > dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40}-generic-pae >> > dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40} >> > >> > This should have purged any old kernels. >> > >> > If I list the kernels with "dpkg -l | grep generic-pae" I see the >> > following: >> > root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers >> > ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45 3.2.0-45.70 Header files >> > related to Linux kernel version 3.2.0 >> > ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel >> > headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> > ii linux-headers-generic-pae 3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux >> > kernel headers >> > root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep generic-pae >> > iU linux-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic >> > Linux kernel >> > ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45-generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel >> > headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> > ii linux-headers-generic-pae 3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux >> > kernel headers >> > rc linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic-pae 2.6.35-22.35 Linux kernel image >> > for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> > ii linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic-pae 2.6.35-28.50 Linux kernel image >> > for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> > rc linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic-pae 2.6.35-30.61 Linux kernel image >> > for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> > rc linux-image-2.6.35-31-generic-pae 2.6.35-31.63 Linux kernel image >> > for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> > rc linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic-pae 2.6.35-32.65 Linux kernel image >> > for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> > ii linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic-pae 2.6.38-13.55 Linux kernel image >> > for version 2.6.38 on x86 >> > rc linux-image-3.0.0-19-generic-pae 3.0.0-19.33 Linux kernel image >> > for version 3.0.0 on x86 >> > ii linux-image-3.0.0-20-generic-pae 3.0.0-20.34 Linux kernel image >> > for version 3.0.0 on x86 >> > ii linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic-pae 3.2.0-32.51 Linux kernel image >> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> > ii linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic-pae 3.2.0-33.52 Linux kernel image >> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> > ii linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic-pae 3.2.0-34.53 Linux kernel image >> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> > ii linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel image >> > for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> > iU linux-image-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux >> > kernel image >> > >> > >> > At this point, I *think* I should only have >> > linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-pae installed, so I'm not sure how to >> > resolve this issue. >> > >> > Any tips? The online stuff says the apt-get -f install should "just >> > work" now... I think it's wrong. :) >> > >> > Shawn >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > clug-talk mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> > **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:34:33 -0600 >> From: Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> >> To: CLUG General <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Upgrade problem >> Message-ID: >> <CAPM=hj64JHbCiy= >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> With Ubuntu 12.04, you might want to consider going with the 3.5 kernel >> (the current default of new 12.04.x installs). >> >> Also, I assume that this is a 32 bit install on a machine with more than 4 >> GiB of memory? If not you probably do not need the PAE kernel (just the >> generic should suffice). >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Shawn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I think I resolved this. >> > >> > If you look at the output of my "dpkg -l" command, you'll see >> > >> > >> > iU linux-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic >> > Linux kernel >> > >> > and >> > >> > >> > iU linux-image-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux >> kernel >> > image >> > >> > It says right there that these two packages are depending on >> 3.2.0.41.49, >> > but everything else is depending on a 3.2.0.45.x version. So, I purged >> > those two items via >> > >> > dpkg --purge linux-generic-pae >> > dpkg --purge linux-image-generic-pae >> > >> > And then ran the apt-get -f install command to fix any broken installs. >> > It didn't report errors this time. apt-get upgrade is now running. >> And if >> > I do a listing again these packages are now reporting dependencies on >> the >> > .45.x version of the kernel. >> > >> > Crisis averted. Now the real test will be to reboot the server and see >> if >> > I broke anything. I mean I did purge EVERY kernel except the latest... >> > >> > Shawn >> > >> > >> > On 13-06-05 10:28 PM, Shawn wrote: >> > >> >> Trying to update my server system (Ubuntu 12.04-LTS) to hopefully >> >> address the latest security issues making the rounds. But I keep >> >> getting a failed dependency: >> >> >> >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# apt-get install -f >> >> Reading package lists... Done >> >> Building dependency tree >> >> Reading state information... Done >> >> Correcting dependencies... Done >> >> The following extra packages will be installed: >> >> linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae >> >> The following packages will be upgraded: >> >> linux-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae >> >> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded. >> >> 2 not fully installed or removed. >> >> Need to get 0 B/4,204 B of archives. >> >> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. >> >> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? >> >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of >> >> linux-image-generic-pae: >> >> linux-image-generic-pae depends on >> linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-**pae; >> >> however: >> >> Package linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-**pae is not installed. >> >> dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic-pae (--configure): >> >> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic-pae: >> >> linux-generic-pae depends on linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.41.49); >> >> however: >> >> Package linux-image-generic-pae is not configured yet. >> >> linux-generic-pae depends on linux-headers-generic-pae (= >> >> 3.2.0.41.49); however: >> >> Version of linux-headers-generic-pae on system is 3.2.0.45.54. >> >> dpkg: error processing linux-generic-pae (--configure): >> >> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> >> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a >> >> followup error from a previous failure. >> >> >> >> No apport report written because >> the >> >> error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Errors were encountered while processing: >> >> linux-image-generic-pae >> >> linux-generic-pae >> >> >> >> >> >> This problem originally started when my /boot partition filled up. I >> >> manually deleted some files, and then ran the command(s) >> >> >> >> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,**32,33,34,35,37,40}-generic-pae >> >> dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,**32,33,34,35,37,40} >> >> >> >> This should have purged any old kernels. >> >> >> >> If I list the kernels with "dpkg -l | grep generic-pae" I see the >> >> following: >> >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep linux-headers >> >> ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45 3.2.0-45.70 Header files >> >> related to Linux kernel version 3.2.0 >> >> ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45-**generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel >> >> headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> >> ii linux-headers-generic-pae 3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux >> >> kernel headers >> >> root@terra:/home/sgrover# dpkg -l | grep generic-pae >> >> iU linux-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Complete Generic >> >> Linux kernel >> >> ii linux-headers-3.2.0-45-**generic-pae 3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel >> >> headers for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> >> ii linux-headers-generic-pae 3.2.0.45.54 Generic Linux >> >> kernel headers >> >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic-**pae 2.6.35-22.35 Linux kernel >> >> image >> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> >> ii linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic-**pae 2.6.35-28.50 Linux kernel >> >> image >> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic-**pae 2.6.35-30.61 Linux kernel >> >> image >> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-31-generic-**pae 2.6.35-31.63 Linux kernel >> >> image >> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> >> rc linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic-**pae 2.6.35-32.65 Linux kernel >> >> image >> >> for version 2.6.35 on x86 >> >> ii linux-image-2.6.38-13-generic-**pae 2.6.38-13.55 Linux kernel >> >> image >> >> for version 2.6.38 on x86 >> >> rc linux-image-3.0.0-19-generic-**pae 3.0.0-19.33 Linux kernel >> image >> >> for version 3.0.0 on x86 >> >> ii linux-image-3.0.0-20-generic-**pae 3.0.0-20.34 Linux kernel >> image >> >> for version 3.0.0 on x86 >> >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic-**pae 3.2.0-32.51 Linux kernel >> image >> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic-**pae 3.2.0-33.52 Linux kernel >> image >> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic-**pae 3.2.0-34.53 Linux kernel >> image >> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> >> ii linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-**pae 3.2.0-45.70 Linux kernel >> image >> >> for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP >> >> iU linux-image-generic-pae 3.2.0.41.49 Generic Linux >> >> kernel image >> >> >> >> >> >> At this point, I *think* I should only have >> >> linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic-**pae installed, so I'm not sure how to >> >> resolve this issue. >> >> >> >> Any tips? The online stuff says the apt-get -f install should "just >> >> work" now... 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