Absolutely can not be done (at least not in our facilities) for safety reasons and 
nurses are signing they "administered" - not left the med. there. Nurses need to 
explain to the resident - "I know this is a pain, but you need to take the medication 
while I am here for safety reasons I can not leave it here" as they hand them a glass 
of water.
Holly QI in CT 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wiedemann, Betty R [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:37 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      RE: Rt. self administration of meds
> 
> No I'm talking about nurses preparing and leaving the med for administration
> at the convienence of the rt.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Settle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Rt. self administration of meds
> 
> 
> The resident has the right to self administer meds unless they don't want to
> do it OR if the CAREPLAN TEAM does not believe the resident has the ability
> to assume the responsibility. There needs to be some type of asswessment
> done which address any dxs that may interfere with the ability to self
> administer meds (dementia, depression, psych dx, etc...) Their cognition
> must also be addressed, as well as the physical ability to self administer
> medications. If a resident is determined to actually be able to administer
> their own meds, they need an MD order AND to be periodicaly reviewed to
> ensure they remain able to do do. *****BUT BE CAUTIOUS.... I once had a very
> sweet little lady who was alert and oriented MOST of the time who wanted to
> administer her own inhalers. Her order was for "2" puffs. During the state
> survey the nurse handed her her inhaler, and she promptly gave herself "4"
> puffs. when asked by the nurse how many puffs she was supposed to have she
> stated correctly "TWO." Needless to say, we recieved a deficency.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Wiedemann, Betty R
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:42 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Rt. self administration of meds
> 
> 
> Our staff is challenged with rt. that will say." Oh, just leave it I'll take
> it" We've all been there and tactfully respond we are not allowed to do
> that. So our ingenious staff felt that if they were to have the Dr write an
> order that the rt. could give if we prepare that that would be OK. I say Oh
> No. I am from the old school. the very old school that says you prepare you
> give. . Input please.
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