I totally agree.  Also, forms are an easy tool to ensure pertinent
information is documented.  

Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C
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-----Original Message-----
From: Holly McGran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: self admin of medication

FORMS are a direct result of an overregulated and scrutinized industry -
longterm care/Nursing Home. Nursing homes have gotten to the point that
they are so afraid they are going to miss something that the state is
looking for they are trying to cross all t's and dot all i's with forms.
I have been in the industry a long time and I disagree - we do need
forms - Nurses can not possible document every component of a particular
regulation (never mind interpretation of that regulation) off the top of
their heads. And for those facilities using agencies - it is impossible.
Read the regulations on Self-adm. of medications - the requirements are
specific - miss one component of it in your documentation and you are
wide open for a deficiency. When OBRA came along there was a period of
time I saw a difference in surveys (in CT) - they were actually looking
at residents and outcome. My experience now is we are back to
documentation focused surveys. Forms serve a purpose.
Holly QI in CT

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:46 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: self admin of medication
> 
> Please do not use faxed forms that you copy and copy and copy and the
result is a very sloppy record.
> 
> Use clean, professional looking forms.  Actually YOU DO NOT NEED A
FORM.  Briggs has [or will] fax you a sample.  Use the sample and do a
narrative note.  I am of the opinion that the reason documentation is
not adequate, complete or pertinent is because we are so locked into
forms.  If we do not have a form, we cannot document.  
> 
> Anyone see the kids movie "A Bugs Life."   Remember when the leaf fell
in front of the line of ants they did not know what to do?  Well,  that
is what forms do to us, no form, we stop dead in our tracks and do--no
documentation.   
> 
> A few months ago one of my clients had a nurse  not admit a resident,
that arrived before noon, because she could not find an admission
packet.
> 
> We need to get out of that way of thinking.
> 
> Delores
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       Can someone send me via email a self admin of medications
assessment, please? I do not have time for the briggs forms to be mailed
and recieved, i am trying to accomplish the tasks of the assessments
this afternoon. many thanks!
>       
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Delores L. Galias, RN, RHIT
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