RE: skin ulcer

[Richardson, Christine]

Under section M in RAi it states on page 3-159 stage ulcers regardless of cause.You can stage it in section M1 and then place it under stasis ulcer if r/t PVD or venous problems? [Richardson, Christine] LPN,CRNAC Original Message----- From: Brenda Chance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: skin ulcer I’d like to clarify what I said below.  I would not necessarily stage these areas as pressure ulcers, but they may truly be ulcers related to PVD, etc.  Look to see if this resident has a dx of PVD, stasis insufficiency, etc.  Then I would code M1 as stage 2, but then code M2B as a 2.  This will clarify that these are circulatory, or venous ulcers.  If you don’t have a dx of PVD, ask your physician about this possibility.  This sounds like a circulatory problem to me rather than pressure.    Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C MDS Coordinator     CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Chance Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: skin ulcer   If these blisters are related to cellulitis, then I would not code them.  They are not pressure induced (right?) and are related to an infection rather than pressure.  I have seen many residents that have PVD and end up with cellulitis with blister formation.    Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C MDS Coordinator     CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: skin ulcer   I have question to the group. I am so confused on how to code this. Resident has cellulitis on her both lower extremities with blisters. How will i code this in M1 is it stage 2 then 0 to M2, right. NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way. Delete it immediately and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available). In the event you cannot fulfill your obligation or there has been any improper release of this information, please contact the Privacy Officer at Carondelet Health at (816) 943-4611.