The term "sarasett notices" comes from the history of these denial notices and demand 
letters.  They are the result of a lawsuit filed many years ago (I believe in 
California) that resulted in a settlement between the advocates and (at the 
time)HCFA....As part of the settlement, HCFA agreed to develop a procedure to inform 
Medicare beneficiaries about coverage determinations (coverage not eligibility) at the 
time of admission and provide a procedure for the beneficiary to challange the 
determination of non-coverage by requesting that a "demand bill" be filed with the FI 
so that the FI would make a determination of coverage or noncoverage rather than the 
SNF.  These notices predate the ABNs used in other settings and for Part B benefits 
and in light of recent developments, it appears that CMS is attempting to induce some 
consistency into the system for all providers and for all items and services.  CMS 
semms to have gotten ahead of itself again on implementation instructions and they 
should issue some clarification so providers know what to do.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Winona M. Phelps
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:14 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Denial Notices


Hello.  Here is the link to the Medicare Northwest web site:
http://medicare.regence.com/medicare_part_a/whats_new/index.html
Below is an excerpt from their site under "Billing non-covered charges":
(the first option on the list).  Scroll to page 4:

"There are three different types of such notices given in different settings
for specific types of care:
1. Notices of non coverage are given to eligible inpatients receiving or
previously eligible for non-hospice services covered under Medicare Part
A....but services no longer meet coverage guidelines...Beneficiaries in
these settings never receive ABN's
2. ABN's and HHABN's....These forms are used for Part B and hospice services
ONLY"
3. Payment Liability Condition 3........."

In my opinion, this information supports the SNFs' continued use of the
Medicare Denial of Benefits letter (the one we have always used) for
Medicare "cut" purposes and not switching to the ABN 10055 form for that
purpose. 
But I do think that this new information about the 10055 form is confusing.
For now, we are sticking with the Denial of Benefits Notice until definite
direction to the contrary (clarification) is received from the FI.

One term that I've never heard of (under the number one instruction)  is
"Sarasett notice".  Has anyone ever heard of this term?
Thank you,
Winona Phelps

-----Original Message-----
From: Sue Junot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Denial Notices


so does the cms10055 (SNFABN)replace the DETERMINATION ON ADMISSION AND THE 
DETERMINATION ON CONTINUED STAY FORMS
SUE



>From: "Corey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Denial Notices
>Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:27:44 -0500
>
>Denial Notices
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joanne Stutesman
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:24 PM
>   Subject: Denial Notices
>
>
>   Could someone point me to the resource for denial notices?
>   Specifically, can they be dated/issued on the last covered day, or must 
>they be issued prior to the LCD?
>   Also, I had previously asked about denial notices on admission when the 
>resident has no technical eligibilty, is a denial notice required on 
>admission in that situation?
>
>   Thanks for any advice,
>   Joanne Stutesman
>
>

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