That is incorrect. You need to do a Medicare 5 day if it was the beginning
of the Medicare stay or a Medicare Return/readmission if it was a continuing
stay to get paid for that day at the RUG rate. There is an exception to the
no midnight, no pay rule and that is if they admit and die on the same day.
If you don't do the MDS, you will get paid at the default rate, which will
be much lower that the RUG rate you will probably get. They will most likely
RUG out at an SE category because they probably had IV meds, fluids, etc in
the hospital if they were sick enough that they died 12 hours after they
came back from the hospital. You cannot use the MD visits in the hospital on
that MDS, however, the MDS states number of physician visits in the past 14
days or since admission to the LTC facility.

Deanna
 


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From: Wiedemann, Betty R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:37 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Readmit / deceased less than 24 hour


no over night stay no payment.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 3:29 PM
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Subject: Readmit / deceased less than 24 hour


HI
    I have a resident that passed away in less than 24 hours upon
readmission from the hosp with MCR eligible  .  His  readmit date 12/31/03
at 11:50 am , deceased 11:55 pm same day. Billing is telling me that I do
not have to do an MDS / cert  for that day because they don't charge for
that day because the resident expired before midnite. If so, what happens to
that day of payment?  I thought their was an exception to the rule when
someone is admitted and dies within 24 hours that you could still charge for
that day according to the rug. Please help,
    nancy fro PA
 
    Futhermore, could you count the physicans visit from the hosp  progress
notes for section p7 on the mds if done.
 

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