Our therapists do not give us predicted minutes for section T until they also give us the minutes for section P after the ARD for the 5 day assessment. They should not give you the minutes after they do the eval, but as above. Page 3-216 of the manual sa to include the number of minutes already provided from MDS items P1baB, P1bbB, and P1bcB. Hpe this helps.
 
Jane 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:17 PM
Subject: projected minutes

I asked this question last week and have not seen any repsonses so I will ask the question again.  Section T on 5 day Medicare assessment where it asks for the estimated minutes patient to be seen thru day 15-how is that tabulated?  Is it strictly from the therapist's evaluation or can it be changed?  For example  Ms Smith is seen by therapy for eval on day 1 and therapy predicts patient to be seen 5 days a week/45 min OT and PT. ARD is set for day 7, on day 5 therapy decides Ms Smith cannot tolerated 45 minutes therapy for 2 disciplines and decreased her to 3x week/ 45 minutes each.  For the predicted minutes in section T do you have to use the initial eval prediction or can you use the projection indicated after therapy decreased?  Is there anywhere it is written?  Thanks-this is very important matter between myself and therapy.
Lisa
Aurora, CO

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