........or why would they put a person in the facility for therapy, transfer/ambulation training, on a bedpan instead of taking them to the bathroom or at least a bedside commode!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Holly Sox, RN, RAC-C
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Bowel and Bladder program

Thank you, Delores!!!
 
This issue grinds me more than almost any other.  Just Saturday, I was informed by a new resident's daughter that this alert, continent lady had been placed in briefs and instructed to "just go in the diaper and I will come back and change you".... simply because she is a big lady who requires 2 person transfers due to non weight bearing status. After I verbally counselled the CNA (which is nice southern girl translation for chewed her rear end out), I placed the resident on a toileting schedule and informed the CNA if I found the resident in briefs again, or heard about her wearing briefs, the CNA would be terminated.
 
Someone please tell me why some CNAs would rather clean up a wet or soiled brief than assist a clean and dry person to the toilet or bedside commode!!!!!!

Holly
Holly F. Sox, RN, RAC-C 
Clinical Editor, Careplans.com
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Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: Bowel and Bladder program

I am concerned about requests for b&b programs.  I am more interested in assessment of the CAUSE of the incontinence.  I urge all list members to look up urinary incontinence in the ICD-9-CM book.  There are many types of incontinence and the underlying cause should be treated.

Recently I sat in on a care plan meeting for an alert incontinent resident who wore briefs and was beginning to have skin problems.  The entire discussion focused around her incontinence, briefs and skin; I finally asked why she was incontinent.  She said it was because she was unable to walk and could not go to the bathroom herself.  She said she knew when she had to urinate or defecate but could not put herself on the bedpan and no one answered her light in time.  What type of B&B program does she need?  Perhaps the staff need the program.

Delores

Does anyone have a bowel and bladder program that is working?  If so, can you please send me some of the information on it.  I have to get one designed by Thursday or at least started.

Davina DeMerritt, RN



Delores L. Galias, RN, RHIT

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