Was this resident admitted to acute care? If so then Holly is correct, but I don't think Holly said anything about the resident being admitted. In that case (if the resident wasn't admitted) then doesn't nursing use a 24 hour rule and not a midnight rule? Just a question.

Holly is right.  See pg.  2-38 of the MDS manual under âResident is Admitted to an Acute Care Facility and Returnsâ, paragraph 2. 

 

Brenda W. Chance, RN, RAC-C

MDS Coordinator

 

 

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Holly, I don't believe your response was accurate.  I have always understood that the Medicare midnight rule only affects billing, but it does not affect the assessment window or schedule.  The discharge tracking criteria, page 2-26, affect the assessment window and schedule. Or am I missing some information?

 

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According to the Midnight Rule, though, if the resident is not in the bed at midnight, then the whole day is disregarded, and your assessment window (and medicare calendar) is adjusted by one day. In your example, the assessment window would change to 11/20, if the resident was out of the bed at midnight.

 

 

Holly F. Sox, RN, RAC-C
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From: MDS Lady

Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:11 AM

Subject: Re: LOA - ARD window

 

Thanks...but the LOA was not during the observation period....

Caralyn Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is this what you are looking for:

 

RAI User's Manual, Chapter 2, page 38:

 

Resident Leaves the Facility and Returns During the Middle of an ARD Period

The ARD is not altered if the beneficiary is out of the facility for a temporary leave of absence during part of the observation period. In this case, the facility may include services furnished during the beneficiary 's temporary absence (when permitted under MDS coding guidelines -see Chapter 3) but may not extend the observation period.

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From: MDS Lady

Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:46 AM

Subject: LOA - ARD window

 

When a Medicare resident has an LOA day......is the ARD window adjusted?

 

Ex.: 60 day window 11/19 - 12/3, resident has LOA on day on 11/15. Does the 60 day window remain the same or change to 11/20 - 12/4?

 

Please include documentation.

 

Thx in advance!

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