-----Original Message-----
From: carol maher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How does RUG deal with classification of residents in a
comma

Each ADL is coded separately.  The code of 8 , Activity did not occur,
can
only be used if the ADL did not occur at any time during the 7 day
observation window.
Bed Mobility would certainly be happening, the resident would be turned
and
moved in bed by the staff, so the code would be a 4 Total dependence .
Transfer--was the resident out of bed at all during the past 7 days?  If
not, then an 8 would be appropriate, but if your staff moves the
resident to
a recliner chair then transferring would have occurred and again most
likely
a 4  for total dependence.  I code mechanical lift transfers as total (
the
lifts that do not require any resident assistance)
Eating--the resident would be getting some type of intake--via tube or
TPN
or fed--again , for a comatose resident, the code would most likely be a
4
Total dependence.  Only code an 8 for intake if there was absolutely no
nutrition or fluid intake during the entire 7 day window.
Walking --an 8
Locomotion--depends--was the resident transported via stretcher or bed
or
recliner any time during the window?  IF so a 4 for total, if not
transferred at all during the window and no movement then 8.
Toileting--incontinence care would have been provided by the staff , so
a 4
for total dependence is appropriate
Personal hygiene tasks would have been provided by the staff, so again a
4
for total is appropriate.

Your CNAs would also need to document whether or not they required 2 to
complete the task at any time during the observation window, also.  This
greatly affects your ADL score and therefore the payment for the RUGS
group.
Total dependence in all categories with 1 assist adds up to 15, but if 2
assists were needed for each area it adds up to 18.  That can translate
to a
big difference in reimbursement.
Hope this helped.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Beaulne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:02 AM
Subject: RE: How does RUG deal with classification of residents in a
comma


Do you code all of G1 A and B part as 8 activity did not occur

-----Original Message-----
From: carol maher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How does RUG deal with classification of residents in a
comma

Residents who are comatose usually code out as CC1 or CC2.  They would
be
totally dependent for ADLS so have an ADL score of 18.  If they have
other
problems like ulcers, or procedures like IVs or trachs they could RUG
out
higher.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Beaulne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: How does RUG deal with classification of residents in a comma


I was curious as to how bed mobility, transfer, eating, and toileting
are coded?

I know that the CPS score is set to 6.

What RUG group are they usually put into?




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