I would think this would be coded as Negative Statements.  Regardless of why a resident exhibits any of these indicators of depression or what we perceive their reasons for doing so are, they still need to be coded.  She has every right to feel this way, but I would still code it. "How can I end this?", "Is there anything I can do to speed this up", "I wish there was a pill to say bye bye".  These are all negative statements regarding her wish to die soon.
 
Toni Rounds, RN, BSN, RCC
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From: MDSNancy
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: how to code "I'm going to die"

Thank you all for your comments,  but my question was how to code this on the MDS in section E.  It's not a negative statement (E1a), E1f? unrealistic fear?   E1i is for non health related complaints/concerns, it doesn't fit E1h either.  Where/how  should I code it on the MDS?


Dorothy Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I used to manage an in patient Hospice unit.
 
Perhaps she's got unresolved issues that she may need someone to help her get resolved. Unresolved issues can have a very negative impact on the rest of her life.
 
Dorothy
 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:08 PM
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Subject: how to code "I'm going to die"

I have a hospice resident who is alert and oriented, young.  She has been told that she only has 6-9 months left to live.  She has cancer, trache, peg tube, ambulates with walker.   She make frequent complaints of "anxiety" and receives ativan.  She makes statements of "what am I going to do?  how can I end this?"  "is there anything I can do to speed this up?  I wish there were a  pill for saying bye bye?"    She knows her condition, she knows she is going to die,  she is making statements about her condition.  It's not an unrealistic fear. But how do we code this?  These don't seem to fit in any of the categories in section E.   I'm hurrying here, so am probably leaving something out.  She is obviously anxious and depressed.  She is being seen by psychiatrist.  Her antidepressants have been increased. 
Help!
Thanks!


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