we are all nurses we all learned assessments head to toe!!!. we know the elderly are at great risk.stop saying hospital nurses don't. I bet our skills are so much more in tuned then yours. STOP this!!! I am insulted.
Lisa Roederer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lisa Roederer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
exactly.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Re: transfer forms
>
> > Yes, you would think so but .... when we have a resident who has
dementia or is confused go to the hospital we know if they are gone for more
than 3 days they will come back with at least one stage II, ususally more
and usually worse. We have only one hospital that we can discharge to "the
only game in town". When they get a dementia resident they 1) INSERT A
FOLEY CATHETER SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH URINARY INCONTINENCE, 2)
RESTRAIN THEM AS THEY DON'T HAVE STAFFING TO DEAL WITH DEMENTIA PATIENTS 3)
IF THEY ARE NOT ON PSYCHOTROPICS THEY CHEMICALLY RESTRAIN THEM -- SOMETIMES
EVEN IF THEY ARE ALREADY STABLE ON PSYCHOTROPICS THEY CAN'T RESIST THE URGE
SO NOW WE HAVE A DEMENTIA PATIENT WHO IS ILL, RESTRAINTED, ZONKED. THEN
THEY BRING IN MEAL TRAY AND SET ON OVERBED TRAY TABLE. SOMETIMES THEY PUSH
TRAY TABLE TO BED SOMETIMES NOT. WHEN AIDE RETURNS TO PICK UP TRAY THEY
WILL NOTE THAT RESIDENT DIDN'T EAAT ANYTHING -- SOMETIMES RESULTING IN
G-TUBE BEING INSERTED. OF COURSE, NO MENTION IS EVER MADE OF THE FACT THAT
RESIDENT
> WAS RESTRAINED AND COULDN'T EAT INDEPENDENTLY. SOUND BITTER? YOU BET!!!
AND NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. IF WE COMPLAIN, WE GET TO REFERRALS FOR
ADMISSION.
> > From: "Lisa Roederer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2004/04/29 Thu PM 07:11:02 EDT
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: transfer forms
> >
> > many elderly patients develop pressure ulcers after being admitted to a
hospital-especially on the heels- it is very common for the elderly
especially those who are confused or who are unable to call for assist-very,
very common
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bryan Sims
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: transfer forms
> >
> >
> > You would think that a hospital when evaluating an admit, sees that a
patient has decrease mobility, or is incontinent, or is a diabetic, etc,
that they would be able to use there assessment skills and figure this one
out! I do not see that this is necessary. Just my thoughts! :)
> >
> > Mychal
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lisa Roederer
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: transfer forms
> >
> >
> > I was just at a conference and they suggested to use a colored piece
of paper (such as Yellow) and type on it that Resident is at risk for:
Falls, Elopement, Pressure ulcers, etc. This allows for a quick alert. It
is to be attached in front of the transfer form.
> > Lisa
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:27 AM
> > Subject: transfer forms
> >
> >
> > How does your facility communicate to the hospital that your
residents are at risk for pressure ulcers or that they are being treated for
pressure ulcers? Do you have it on your transfer form? If anyone has a way
that has been working please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Carol
> >
> >
>
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