I don't post often but this site in priceless. let us pull together and support 
one another. if it was'nt for this group I would still be in the dark ages..my 
doc is a good guy but he no way has the knowledge I have learned from you good 
people..  hope you all have a good day
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rob 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:25 PM
  Subject: [CML] Re: What's happened on here?


  Nancy mentioned Dane in her post as one of the issues the "Group Of
  Six" presented to me some months ago. It left a bad enough taste in my
  mouth at that time and does so even more at the present time to even
  mention it again.

  Rob


  --- In [email protected], "snickersunny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > Rob,  
  > 
  > When did I ever bring up Dane's name?  Interesting.  I realize that 
  > Dane is in the battle of his life, and thank God he is doing well.  I 
  > wish him no ill will.  I'm thrilled that he is doing well and will 
  > soon return to his family and his loved ones.
  > 
  > I don't belong to any "group of 6" club.  I just bonded to a bunch of 
  > incredibly knowledgeable and talented individuals that share my sense 
  > of decency and honesty and care about the well-being of myself and my 
  > family.  These individuals helped me through my darkest days of being 
  > dx'd with cml.. and have walked me through the tunnel of dispair and 
  > sadness and helped direct me to the path of acceptance and moving on 
  > with my life.  For that, I am eternally grateful.  If you want to 
  > slam me for the bond that I have formed with these individuals, go 
  > ahead. It doesn't matter.  We just wanted to give input and improve 
  > the group.  I'm sorry you feel so threatened.  It was never the 
  > intent to do that.  Lynn
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > --- In [email protected], Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > First of all please have the human decency to leave Dane out of this
  > > since he is recovering from a BMT. He has not commented on any of 
  > this
  > > and is not involved in any of this.
  > > 
  > > Once again I am sorry the Group Of Six did not like the way the 
  > group
  > > was operated back then and still does not like the way the group
  > > operates now. The group is operated for the benefit of all of the
  > > members not just six. I did consider suggestions that were made but 
  > I
  > > did not feel that turning the group over to the Group Of Six (or the
  > > persons they selected as their proxies) was in the best interest of
  > > the group nor did I think that putting in place the "standards of
  > > decency" they wanted for the group was appropriate. No one has
  > > appointed the Group Of Six to determine what the others in the group
  > > should be able to read and say. It is unfortunate that the same 
  > people
  > > who complain about disruptions on the list are often the very same
  > > people who cause the disruptions in the group.
  > > 
  > > Whether it is one of the small vendettas or the large vendettas
  > > against me I am getting it from all directions at once.
  > > 
  > > Rob
  > > 
  > > --- In [email protected], "hey00nanc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > > 
  > > > --- In [email protected], Carl Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > >  
  > > > >            For those of us who appreciate all you have done, we 
  > are 
  > > > sorry you have to live this Kafkaesque nightmare in which 
  > sniveling 
  > > > cowards can file an anonymous complaint against you and torpedo 
  > the 
  > > > list.
  > > > >  
  > > > >            In the spirit of decency and respect for fellow 
  > > > listmembers, I would ask that the individuals who filed the 
  > complaint 
  > > > muster the courage to crawl out from under the cloak of anonymity 
  > and 
  > > > explain your motivation and reasons to the rest of us.  
  > > > ____________________
  > > > 
  > > > To Carl and Rob,
  > > > 
  > > > I want to set a few things straight. A while back, Zavie (I 
  > believe) 
  > > > got a small chat group together with Rob....people that Zavie 
  > seemed 
  > > > to know were not totally happy with the way the list was running. 
  > The 
  > > > group consisted of Zavie, Tracey, Rob, Lynn, John and myself. We 
  > did 
  > > > NOT have any hidden agendas......we told Rob what our complaints 
  > were 
  > > > (and some we had heard from others). People did not like all the 
  > > > bickering on the list and the personal attacks. We knew people 
  > who 
  > > > were leaving the list because of that...or who would no longer 
  > post 
  > > > anything. The list was dwindling away. Also, there was one person 
  > who 
  > > > was dominating the list and others found annoying. I felt that 
  > Rob 
  > > > should have stepped in when Dane made his ugly remark to me. Rob 
  > kept 
  > > > saying we wanted to censor the list and ban people....wrong! We 
  > said 
  > > > have some rules for the list....some standards of decency.
  > > > 
  > > > Then Rob turned the discussion to him being harassed for 2 years, 
  > with 
  > > > calls in the middle of the night, etc......and revealed who that 
  > > > person was/is......and she is not a major poster on the CML list, 
  > but 
  > > > her identity is known to EVERYONE in this small discussion group. 
  > Of 
  > > > course, we are taking Rob's word that this has actually 
  > occurred.  
  > > > 
  > > > The small group tried to offer suggestions for changes.....Rob 
  > > > mentioned several times about turning the group over to someone 
  > else, 
  > > > and mentioned maybe a cancer center as an option. The group fell 
  > apart 
  > > > (mostly due to frustation that Rob was not open to any of the 
  > > > suggestions that we made).........then Rob posted his 'new 
  > rules'. 
  > > > ________________
  > > > 
  > > > This group did not complain about photos on the list or medical 
  > > > articles.....that was a more recent complain on this list by 2 of 
  > the 
  > > > group members individually........so, let's not attribute this to 
  > the 
  > > > group Rob. 
  > > > 
  > > > I will post here for you Carl.....and for anyone else who wants 
  > to 
  > > > know......I had nothing to do with Rob being banned from Yahoo 
  > and 
  > > > know nothing about it.............................
  > > > 
  > > > and I invite each of the members of that small discussion group 
  > to do 
  > > > the same. Let's clear our names. 
  > > > 
  > > > Someone had to have a bigger vandetta against you than the small 
  > > > issues we were complaining about and trying to resolve....to get 
  > you 
  > > > banned Rob. Who knows.....maybe the 'midnight harasser"!
  > > > 
  > > > Nancy C.


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