So good to hear from you Millie.  I though  something was wrong.  What did 
they do about the bleeding; just stop  meds?  Watch you stool to check for 
signs of bleeding.  If they are  dark or black, check to see what it could be.
You are strong and I know you will come through  this with flying colors.  
I had to have blood transfusions while on Tasi so  keep a check on that.  It 
can drop your counts too low.
Drink Ensure if you have too to keep up your  energy and nutrition.  My 
brother-in-law had cancer and he lived for a year  on Ensure so I know it works.
It's hard to do when you love to eat like I do  hehe.
I'm good; going ot my PCD on Mon.  
Keep us informed and blessings,
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 5/1/2013 3:57:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi  Jeanie....I just got home from the hospital today.  Due to taking blood 
 thinners,  my levels were way off and I was bleeding internally.  I  was 
also very dehydrated and have lost over 20 lbs of weight in the past few  
weeks.  I haven't been eating either as I was so nauseated and having  pain in 
my stomach, etc.  I was loosing so much fluid that it was scaring  me.  At 
any rate, I was due for a procedure on Tues., but when I went for  testing on 
Monday, my doctor called and told me to go over to the emergency  room at 
the hospital, so that's what I did and they kept me until today.   They say 
the levels are good right now, but they did cut me  down, and in  some cases, 
did away with some of my medications.  I'm now suppose to go  to have the 
scope done on Mon. of next week, but am waiting for a call to  verify that.  
I'm still very weak, but feeling better in every other  way.  I just have to 
work at getting stronger......and I will.  They  gave me vitamin K shots 
and also 2 units of Plasma while in the hospital, and  also IV. fluid, so I'm 
good to go now.  Just have to get stronger and  I'll do that.
 
You take  care and stay healthy.  I'm still doing well on Tasigna (or hope  
that  am)  I see my Onc. the end of this month.  He'll run the  blood work 
then and tell me if I'm still in remission.   

I'll talk to  you all soon.  Hope that all of my fellow CMLers are doing 
well.  It  seems like one of us is always fighting the fight somehow.  I know 
that  most of us have issues, but we are still able to fight, and that's 
good  news.
Hugs,
Millie

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:28  PM
Subject: [CMLHope] Jim and Millie and  all


Thanks Jim for all your support.  You there Millie? Just wondering  how you 
are?
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 4/30/2013 5:51:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

Hi Peg, I also have the cramping, I'm on Gleevec since it was  approved in 
the USA. I was dxed 4/12,1997. I've experienced  many of the known side 
effects. Eye bleeds, cramping in the  legs(upper and lower), feet insteps, 
forearm, hands, I inquired abut  muscle relaxers and Onc. gave me some and it 
didn't help. The legs  and hands respond to hot water, the feet don't! My Pcr 
test is  negative that's a plus that we are so happy for. I'm 68 and the side 
 effects aren't bad enough for me to want to venture into the unknown  with 
a different med. that may not even work for me or the side  effects are 
worse than what I currently have.
 
18s to all my fellow warriors we must never give up research is  making 
head way as never before who knows what they ill come up with  next. some day 
the big "C' will stand for CURE. I pray every  day for that AMEN. God Bless 
us all. Jim  Rodeghier 

--- On Mon, 4/29/13, peg  <[email protected]> wrote:



From:  peg <[email protected]>
Subject: [CMLHope] TKI  Spasticity
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, April  29, 2013, 10:57 AM

Hi all,  


Sorry it takes me a while to catch up these days.  Just  read Beth's post 
on spasticity and wanted to share.  There  are many folks having muscle 
related problems with all of the CML  drugs.  The spectrum ranges from the 
seriousness of myopathy  to simple muscles spasms, with everything in between.  
Gleevec gave me myopathy.  Because I was not a good  candidate for Tasigna we 
moved directly to Sprycel back in  2010...before it was front line approved. 
 For me Sprycel  causes such severe muscle contractions that I have 
developed  contractures in several places in my body. At first we just  thought 
it 
was my arthritis causing limited range of motion, but  then several months 
ago finally realized what had happened.  I am in physical therapy now to 
improve my range of motion.  We have also had to radically adjust the Sprycel  
dosing...not just for the contractures, but also the crippling  fatigue, mind 
numbing brain fog, bone pain and Sprycel induced  depression.  The only 
time I feel really good now is on  Sprycel "holidays".  


After many dose reductions here's where I am at...in 2011 we  started 
dropping the daily dose....first 70mg then 50mg.  We  also tried 50mg every 
other 
day, then 20mg daily.  All of  these changes still held me at PCRU.  But 
even at 20mg daily  it was difficult to have a normal life.  There was also a  
concern from the specialist I see who  helped develop Spycel.  He believes 
that from what  he is seeing, the way Sprycel affects the CML is more 
related to  the size of each dose, rather than the frequency, so he had a  
concern 
that 20mg a day would not hold the PCRU. Although I have  heard of cases 
where it is.  We also noted that for me a  "washout" of a few days off Sprycel 
helped me recover from the  side effects. Without that washout, the affects 
would load up.  So this was when we started experimenting  last Oct  with 
twice weekly dosing.  Unfortunately 70mg still proved to  high a single dose 
for me, so we did a brief five months at 50mg  every third day. However, the 
side effects from each dose are  still so severe, it is like sticking my 
finger in a light socket,  everything in my body clenches.  This starts two 
hours after  each dose and lasts for almost 24 hours.  Every third day  dosing 
was just craziness, since I couldn't plan around that  well...and found 
myself dragging myself painfully through life  every third day...hating every 
minute of it.  We finally  realized that the only way I could have any 
quality of life was to  drop back to a twice a week dose and take those days 
out 
of my  schedule...just plan on being down for the count on those two same  
days each week. 


So we are now at 50mg two days a week.  I take a muscle  relaxer with each 
dose, and again at 12 hours if I need it.  This really helps with the muscle 
spasms.  I lose two  days out of my week, but the quality of the other five 
is much  better now.  We are monitoring my PCR monthly to see if the  PCRU 
still holds.  


I can't recommend experimenting for everyone...it carries a  risk of 
becoming resistant.  However, the quality of my life  had become so bad that 
the 
cost of saving my life was no longer  worth it. Life in the absence of any 
quality is simply not a life.  


For those of you who's reactions to TKI are not as dramatic  as mine, 
adding a muscle relaxer to each dose, even daily, might  bring the muscle spasm 
relief you need.  My drug of choice is  Robaxin...but to each man his own!


Warmest regards to everyone! 


Peg 

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