Same to you Beth, good to hear from you.
Blessings,
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 5/1/2013 10:35:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Dear Jim, Millie, Peg, Jeannie , thinking  of all of you....sending you 
peace and health. Millie, hang in there!  Beth


-----Original  Message-----
From: ICANDOALLTTC <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2:28 pm
Subject:  [CMLHope] Jim and Millie and all


 
Thanks Jim for all your support.  You there Millie? Just wondering  how you 
are?
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 4/30/2013 5:51:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

Hi Peg, I also have the cramping, I'm on Gleevec since it was  approved in 
the USA. I was dxed 4/12,1997. I've experienced many  of the known side 
effects. Eye bleeds, cramping in the legs(upper and  lower), feet insteps, 
forearm, hands, I inquired abut muscle relaxers  and Onc. gave me some and it 
didn't help. The legs and hands respond  to hot water, the feet don't! My Pcr 
test is negative that's a plus  that we are so happy for. I'm 68 and the side 
effects aren't bad  enough for me to want to venture into the unknown with 
a different  med. that may not even work for me or the side effects are 
worse than  what I currently have.
 
18s to all my fellow warriors we must never give up research is  making 
head way as never before who knows what they ill come up with  next. some day 
the big "C' will stand for CURE. I pray every  day for that AMEN. God Bless 
us all. Jim  Rodeghier 

--- On Mon, 4/29/13, peg <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >  
wrote:



From:  peg <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Subject:  [CMLHope] TKI Spasticity
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Date:  Monday, April 29, 2013, 10:57 AM

Hi all,  


Sorry it takes me a while to catch up these days.  Just  read Beth's post 
on spasticity and wanted to share.  There are  many folks having muscle 
related problems with all of the CML drugs.  The spectrum ranges from the 
seriousness of myopathy to simple  muscles spasms, with everything in between.  
Gleevec gave me  myopathy.  Because I was not a good candidate for Tasigna we  
moved directly to Sprycel back in 2010...before it was front line  approved. 
 For me Sprycel causes such severe muscle  contractions that I have 
developed contractures in several places in  my body. At first we just thought 
it 
was my arthritis causing  limited range of motion, but then several months 
ago finally  realized what had happened.  I am in physical therapy now to  
improve my range of motion.  We have also had to radically  adjust the Sprycel 
dosing...not just for the contractures, but also  the crippling fatigue, 
mind numbing brain fog, bone pain and Sprycel  induced depression.  The only 
time I feel really good now is on  Sprycel "holidays".  


After many dose reductions here's where I am at...in 2011 we  started 
dropping the daily dose....first 70mg then 50mg.  We  also tried 50mg every 
other 
day, then 20mg daily.  All of these  changes still held me at PCRU.  But 
even at 20mg daily it was  difficult to have a normal life.  There was also a 
concern from  the specialist I see who helped develop Spycel.  He  believes 
that from what he is seeing, the way Sprycel affects the  CML is more 
related to the size of each dose, rather than the  frequency, so he had a 
concern 
that 20mg a day would not hold the  PCRU. Although I have heard of cases 
where it is.  We also  noted that for me a "washout" of a few days off Sprycel 
helped me  recover from the side effects. Without that washout, the affects  
would load up.  So this was when we started experimenting  last Oct with 
twice weekly dosing.  Unfortunately 70mg  still proved to high a single dose 
for me, so we did a brief five  months at 50mg every third day. However, the 
side effects from each  dose are still so severe, it is like sticking my 
finger in a light  socket, everything in my body clenches.  This starts two 
hours  after each dose and lasts for almost 24 hours.  Every third day  dosing 
was just craziness, since I couldn't plan around that  well...and found 
myself dragging myself painfully through life every  third day...hating every 
minute of it.  We finally realized  that the only way I could have any quality 
of life was to drop back  to a twice a week dose and take those days out of 
my schedule...just  plan on being down for the count on those two same days 
each  week. 


So we are now at 50mg two days a week.  I take a muscle  relaxer with each 
dose, and again at 12 hours if I need it.  This really helps with the muscle 
spasms.  I lose two  days out of my week, but the quality of the other five 
is much  better now.  We are monitoring my PCR monthly to see if the  PCRU 
still holds.  


I can't recommend experimenting for everyone...it carries a  risk of 
becoming resistant.  However, the quality of my life  had become so bad that 
the 
cost of saving my life was no longer  worth it. Life in the absence of any 
quality is simply not a life.  


For those of you who's reactions to TKI are not as dramatic as  mine, 
adding a muscle relaxer to each dose, even daily, might bring  the muscle spasm 
relief you need.  My drug of choice is  Robaxin...but to each man his own!


Warmest regards to everyone! 


Peg 

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