Hi Peter - My suggestion is that you get in touch with the CML Society of
Canada for more information and support. 

Website: http://cmlsociety.org/

Email: info(at sign) cmlsociety.org <mailto:[email protected]> 
Phone: 1-866-931-5165 Toll Free

Best regards,

Pat

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Peter
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 12:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Tasigna does not like me

 

Hi Beth and thank you for your reply.
I suppose another option would be to go back to Gleevec at a higher dose and
see what it does. My gut feeling tells me that this would be a long shot.
Sprycel seems to be the next logical step, but the pleural effusion etc.
just scares the heck out of me. But, as you said, maybe trying it on a low
dose like 70mg for a start makes the most sense.
There is another issue though: you might remember all that talk about "death
panels" during the Obamacare debate. At that time I dismissed that as
nonsense. 
Turns out, I was wrong. Death panels are alive and well in Ontario. The
Ontario drug plan for seniors pays for only two out of the three drugs, i.e.
if you made the wrong pick the first two times, they won't pay for the third
one. Since my private health plan comes to an end in three years when I turn
65, this will be an issue. The cost of the drug will be higher than my
pension income.
So, there is a lot of thinking I have to put into this decision.............

On Saturday, July 6, 2013 2:39:20 PM UTC-4, Beth wrote:

I just wanted to welcome you Peter to the group. I am sorry you have had
such a hard time with Tasigna. sounds really challenging. I did not have
those problems with tasigna, I had pancreas and liver enzyme elevations that
took me off of it. so I don't know what to  say about your specific problem.
There are other options to try....Sprycel is 300X plus more potent than
gleevec, one of the positives of it, and many people are able to use much
less than a whole dose and have achieved MMR or CMM on it. It has it's
issues for many people, but for some, lower doses are very effective and
produce less side effects. Mostly I am holding hope for you that you can
find the right med for you at the right dose that will work best for you. My
only thoughts with your toxicity profile, and I am no doc, just my personal
experience, is If you do try a new drug I would encourage   starting with a
lesser dose, do blood work in a month, assess, and go from there,..perhaps
titrate up to what your body can tolerate, or stay at alower dose if the
trend says it's working......It seems that if we start high and get very
toxic, lowering dosages when the body is already under distress causes more
problems than clearing the body of the old drug, and starting with a solid
but lower dose and going up from there...Other's might disagree...it's just
based upon the individual... your heart side effects are worrisome....so the
three other options out there may be a thought!

Take care, Beth

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From: Peter <[email protected] <javascript:> >
To: cmlhope <[email protected] <javascript:> >
Sent: Sat, Jul 6, 2013 10:54 am
Subject: [CMLHope] Tasigna does not like me

Hi everybody :)
After reading your posts for a few months, I thought it is time that I
introduce myself.
My name is Peter (62), I am from Whitby, Ontario.
I was diagnosed with CML in May 2010. It took me about a year to get used to
Gleevec, to the point where I could (kindof) live with it.
At the end of two years, the only remaining issues were chills, muscle
cramps and some fluid retention. 
The problem was, it did not get me any higher than a 2.7 log reduction -
close, but no cigar. 
I switched to 800mg Tasigna, which got me up to 3.4 log within three months.
But I could not tolerate the high dosage, so we lowered it to 600mg. 
Now I am stuck at a 3.0 log reduction, but Tasigna appears to be doing a
number on my cardio - hypertension, palpitations, fast pulse, irregular
heartbeat. 
I take Proprapnolol, Cilazapril, Hydro and the occasional Ativan to keep a
lid on these issues, but with limited success. In addition, I am also
experiencing extreme fatigue and weakness. 
Has anybody here had these kinds of problems with Tasigna? If yes, I would
be really grateful for any helpful hints you can give me.

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