Dear Millie, Thank you for your kind words. I am so glad your ceramics are 
down..what a lovely reminder of your daughter....Just an FYI, I am single 
Millie. My fiance was killed by a drunk driver a long time ago...I was looking 
forward to adopting a child, then my dad got sick, then I was in an accident 
and hurt my back, then I got diagnosed with CML, then my mom got sick....so I 
do understand loss, and feel for you and anyone else grieving during the 
holidays and beyond. I treasure all the love and support that is in my life, my 
friends, small extended family..and trust that once I am through this final 
surgery, the fourth in two years.I can focus back on bringing love and a 
partner into my life......that mountain is sometimes quite tall stretched 
before us, but as Richard said,....we get up, and appreciate every day...and 
give thanks for the meds that have saved all our lives. When ponatinib got 
taken off trial...I have found myself actually smiling and being joyful and 
thankful every night when I take my sprycel. It may sound weird, but I find it 
a comforting ritual, welcoming it into my body so it can do it's job. I have 
found, and this may help Mar, that visualization, guided imagery at night 
before I go to bed has been profoundly helpful and I believe supportive of 
remission. I listen to Belleruth Naparstek. A Medication to Help You Fight 
Cancer. It has guided imagery and affirmatioins to say to your body.,..( she 
actually says them for you )...there are a few others as well....focusing on 
illness and wholeness, the spirit rising, healing etc...I'd be happy to share 
more if anyone is interested but Belleruth is great. To bed I go...I do have 
the insomnia part...take benadryl to try to counter it..wish everyone a good 
weekend ahead! Beth
 


-----Original Message-----
From: C.M. Houtz <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Getting Results



Hi Beth,
 
You have gone through so much, and I keep you in my prayers always.  I know 
that you keep fighting hard to overcome all of the things you've had to deal 
with.  Thank God you have such a good husband and support system in place as 
that's half of the battle.  When are you going to have more surgery?  Just 
wondering.
 
Are  you ready for Christmas?  I never am until the last minute, and then I may 
not be ready, but it's going to be here anyway.  I am working on finishing up 
the decorations.  I told my son that we spent so much time putting them up that 
I'm not going to take them down any time soon.  I love looking at them and they 
make me happy, so I'll keep them up until late January..probably.  Chris, my 
son, has always collected nutcrackers, and so he has them out.  I don't know 
that I'll put them away this year.  There are times when I just leave them out. 
 There is more in the Attic, so tomorrow he'll bring them down and I can start 
on the kitchen and dining area and get that done.  I will repack things and 
clearly mark them this year so that it will make our lives easier in the coming 
years.  My daughter and I use to do ceramics and have beautiful reminders of 
our time together before she passed.  This is the first year I've been able to 
get them down and enjoy them.  
 
You take care, my friend, and let me know how you're doing.  I will keep you in 
my prayers and hopefully your numbers will be fine on your blood work.  Talk to 
you soon.
Many hugs and Happy Holidays,
Millie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: [email protected] 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Getting Results


Dear Mar,
 
I hope you feel well held here..aren't these folks great! I love them all., 
anyway, I was reading...the beginning really can be very trying...and you are 
having a definate rough time, no doubt.  You may already know this, but just 
wanted to share it in case the doc didn't mention it,  I learned this from 
other warriors....when your body is killing cancer cells, and our cancer is in 
our bone marrow, it's common for people to have bone pain, sometimes very 
intense. While it can be a side effect of the medicine itself, it can also be a 
temporary issue that improves with time, as there are fewer and fewer 
detectable cancer cells..hopefully one day none showing!!! My bone pain was bad 
at first, but I have none now....except for when I had to go off meds for a 
long time for a surgery and my numbers went up...when I went back on the 
sprycel initially I had that pain all over again..but it did get better. Again, 
I know that that can be a side effect of the medication itself in some people. 
I am hoping for you that over time, it is not an issue. I will keep my fingers 
crossed for you as I do for all of us here...
 
did blood work today at U of C.  Everybody please send good energy for a great 
outcome. I have to have another back surgery..healing from cervical surgery 
pretty well now..in PT..  have to go off sprycel again for a time to do this 
next surgery ......Four major surgeries in two years...on and off these 
meds...like Tom said...stay  positive, try to stay strong and move your body in 
some way.,
 
Best,
 
Beth
-----Original Message-----
From: TEDBDD <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 8:40 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Getting Results



Mar....welcome to the group!  I, too am on 20mg of Sprycel (disatinib) after 
difficulties on Tasigna, Gleevec and higher doses of Sprycel.  My journey is 
outlined in the notes at the bottom of this email.  I would recommend you 
establishing the same...it is really helpful in letting others know what your 
journey has been and doctors love it if you have to change physicians.  
 
Each person seems to react a little differently to these Tyrosine Kinease 
Inhibitors...I find that exercise and a positive attitude are the best tools to 
deal with the speed bumps we have on our unique CML journeys.  Collectively, we 
are so fortunate to have these amazing TKI drugs available to us...for we 
probably wouldn't be around without them!
 
All the best...and Dave is right...you can get a lot of info from this group!
 
Tom in KY

Tom Dunham, BD: 8/1941 Updated:12-13-13
Zavie Miller's Zero Club #1292
DX CML 12-23-2008
MDA Protocol: Tasigna-400mg; 2xday-1/09
On Flecainide for AF...still had frequent episodes
Q PCR bone@ MDA…0.17 on 7/09
Acute Pancreatitis-7/5/09
Stopped Tasigna-7/13/09
Q PCRU blood @ Baptist…undetected-7-29-09 !
Started Gleevec-400mg/day-7/31/09
Developed rash ~ 8/19/09
Rash treated with Steroids..improvement
Rash worsens~9/22/09
Stopped Gleevec-9/28/09
Restarted Gleevec @300mg/day-10/8/09
Stopped Gleevec-10/13/09-toxic rash\
AF returned infrequently
Q PCR bone-0.05
Started Sprycel @ 100mg/day-10/20/09
Some AF...increased FLecainde..1, 2x/day
Q PCR bone @ MDA..0.07
Stopped Alcohol…no AF, ½ Flecainide 2x/day
Q PCR Blood @ Baptist…Non Detectible-12-13-10
Q PCR Bone @ MDA..0.01--2-25-11
Q PCR Blood @ Baptist…Undetectible-5-19-11
Reduced Flecainide to 1/2 per day
Pleural and pericardial Effusion: stopped Sprycel-12-6-'11
Prednisone 50mg /day to combat PE; 12/14/'11 gradual reduction
Pleural Effusion clear 12-21-11
Started Sprycel 70mg/day..12-23-11
QPR bone @ MDA.. <0.01...2-16-12
Started Sprycel 50mg/day..3-10-12
Chest pains...slightly more PL Eff 4-19-12
Steroid Dose pack to alleaviate..still on 50mgs
Change to 20 mgs/day Sprycel..4-26-12
Chest clear, effusion gone-5-14-12
Q-PCR Blood @ Baptist-Undetectible-6-13-12
Neuropathy moving up legs, some weakness noted--12
Q-PCR Blood @ MDA..<0.01…8-21-12
Q-PCR Bone @ MDA…<0.01….3-5-13
Q-PCR Blood @ Baptist….Undetectible..6-19-13
Q-PCR Blood @ MDA...Undetectible...9-19-13

 

In a message dated 12/13/2013 6:34:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

Hi Mar,  I've been with this group of people starting I think back in 2001.  
Found out I had CML two weeks before Xmas of 1998.  Was put on Interferon for 3 
months which almost killed me.  A couple of months later my Doctor in Chicago, 
Northwestern University put me in a study with 7 others people from Chicago 
land.  I was the only one from Northwest Indiana.  Their were 200 people from 
the US in this study.  Novartis was head of the research of this study.  This 
was before Gleevec was approved by the FDA.
 
Within 6 months I was in remission and I've been on STI571 (Gleevec) all these 
years.  Started on Jan. 10th of 2000.  You will find out that in this CML group 
you will get more information from our members and their care takers that you 
won't get from most Doctors.  If at any time you have any questions this is the 
place to get the real facts.   Good luck to you and welcome to the group.
 
Dave (Greenie) Greenberg
 

In a message dated 12/13/2013 2:15:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

Thank you everyone for responding. Feels less like you are on an isolated 
island... there are no support groups in my area... so, I do appreciate your 
emails with encouragement and support.  


I was glad to hear there are other medications. I gather this is a long 
journey... to figure out which drug and at what level... not one that can be 
answered quickly. I find the side effects difficult to deal with as I continue 
to work. Not sure if it is possible to work while all of this is being figured 
out.  Do most people continue working?   


Richard, diagnosed in 2003 and there are still mountains?  I guess I am 
expecting to much to soon. 


Beth,  My hematologist specialist didn't put me on the 100mg I was on at the 
beginning because of the first toxicity. I have been on 20 mg which doesn't 
seem to be much but, I can't believe my body doesn't even like the 20 mg... I 
just learned today I am back into the toxicity and cytopenias.   I have side 
effects to Diasanatib I didn't have on the Gleevec as well. I found the 100 mg 
gave me insomnia, medically induced depression and rash... I only have the rash 
at 20mg.  But, seem to have a lot of bone pain lately.


I am giving you all a big hug and thank you for your emails as it is nice to 
know there are people who understand much more than I do (being such a newbie). 
 I look forward to hearing from all and learning from you. I hope all of you 
are doing well in your own journey :) 


Ididn't know that 1and 8 meant life.. will post this in front of me for 
inspiration!


Cheers,
Mar

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:25:25 PM UTC-8, Richard H wrote: 
Welcome to this group.  Almost every one has had problems adjusting to the 
meds.  Try your best to remain positive as that seems to help most of us. We 
are here to listen and in return we give back what we have learned to get over 
this little hill at this moment.  I was diagnosed in 2003 and the mountain I 
have to climb is still on the horizon.   


Richard H.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:42:51 AM UTC-6, Mar wrote: 
Hi, I am new to the group. I was diagnosed January 10 2013. Since then I have 
been on Gleevec, failed (due to toxicity twice) and was switched to Dasatinib 
which I have toxicity to as well and had to stop taking the medication. Each 
time I have had the toxicity my blood levels are so low that it takes 4-5 weeks 
for them (neutrophils, platelets and wbc's) to go back to even the lower range 
of normal. Thus, I have not yet had any cytogenic or molecular recovery.. if 
anything, my last result was going backward. I have another appointment on 
December 19th to see if there is any recovery at all... I am keeping my fingers 
crossed. It has been quite the roller coaster... I am not sure if others have 
had the same type of roller coaster in the first year.  


I just ran into this group tonight and I appreciated reading others emails 
about their recovery... thank- you.. Hope to be able to post one of my own 
recovery stories one of these days.


Mar





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