Yes Beth, I always think of Sprycel as killing those awful  cancer cells, 
and it has put me in remission, so I've got a lot to be thankful  for. I am 
so sorry for all you losses; I pray for your quick recovery in your  
surgeries, and I know you are a fighter, so fight on sweet girl.
Blessings,
Jeanie<2
 
 
In a message dated 12/14/2013 1:58:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Dear Millie, Thank you for your kind words. I am  so glad your ceramics are 
down..what a lovely reminder of your  daughter....Just an FYI, I am single 
Millie. My fiance was killed by a drunk  driver a long time ago...I was 
looking forward to adopting a child, then my  dad got sick, then I was in an 
accident and hurt my back, then I got diagnosed  with CML, then my mom got 
sick....so I do understand loss, and feel for you  and anyone else grieving 
during the holidays and beyond. I treasure all the  love and support that is in 
my life, my friends, small extended family..and  trust that once I am 
through this final surgery, the fourth in two years.I can  focus back on 
bringing 
love and a partner into my life......that mountain is  sometimes quite tall 
stretched before us, but as Richard said,....we get up,  and appreciate 
every day...and give thanks for the meds that have saved all  our lives. When 
ponatinib got taken off trial...I have found myself actually  smiling and 
being joyful and thankful every night when I take my sprycel. It  may sound 
weird, but I find it a comforting ritual, welcoming it into my body  so it can 
do it's job. I have found, and this may help Mar, that  visualization, guided 
imagery at night before I go to bed has been profoundly  helpful and I 
believe supportive of remission. I listen to Belleruth  Naparstek. A Medication 
to Help You Fight Cancer. It has guided imagery and  affirmatioins to say to 
your body.,..( she actually says them for you  )...there are a few others 
as well....focusing on illness and wholeness, the  spirit rising, healing 
etc...I'd be happy to share more if anyone is  interested but Belleruth is 
great. To bed I go...I do have the insomnia  part...take benadryl to try to 
counter it..wish everyone a  good weekend ahead! Beth


-----Original  Message-----
From: C.M. Houtz <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 9:05  pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Getting Results


 
Hi  Beth,
 
You have gone  through so much, and I keep you in my prayers always.  I 
know that you  keep fighting hard to overcome all of the things you've had to 
deal  with.  Thank God you have such a good husband and support system in 
place  as that's half of the battle.  When are you going to have more  surgery? 
 Just wondering.
 
Are  you ready  for Christmas?  I never am until the last minute, and then 
I may not be  ready, but it's going to be here anyway.  I am working on 
finishing up  the decorations.  I told my son that we spent so much time 
putting 
them  up that I'm not going to take them down any time soon.  I love 
looking at  them and they make me happy, so I'll keep them up until late  
January..probably.  Chris, my son, has always collected nutcrackers, and  so he 
has 
them out.  I don't know that I'll put them away this  year.  There are times 
when I just leave them out.  There is more in  the Attic, so tomorrow he'll 
bring them down and I can start on the kitchen  and dining area and get 
that done.  I will repack things and clearly mark  them this year so that it 
will make our lives easier in the coming  years.  My daughter and I use to do 
ceramics and have beautiful reminders  of our time together before she 
passed.  This is the first year I've been  able to get them down and enjoy 
them.  
 
You take care, my  friend, and let me know how you're doing.  I will keep 
you in my prayers  and hopefully your numbers will be fine on your blood 
work.  Talk to you  soon.
Many hugs and Happy  Holidays,
Millie

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:46  PM
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Getting  Results


Dear Mar,
 
I hope you feel well held here..aren't these folks great! I love them  
all., anyway, I was reading...the beginning really can be very trying...and  
you 
are having a definate rough time, no doubt.  You may already know  this, 
but just wanted to share it in case the doc didn't mention it,  I  learned 
this from other warriors....when your body is killing cancer cells,  and our 
cancer is in our bone marrow, it's common for people to have bone  pain, 
sometimes very intense. While it can be a side effect of the medicine  itself, 
it 
can also be a temporary issue that improves with time, as there  are fewer 
and fewer detectable cancer cells..hopefully one day none  showing!!! My 
bone pain was bad at first, but I have none now....except for  when I had to go 
off meds for a long time for a surgery and my numbers went  up...when I 
went back on the sprycel initially I had that pain all over  again..but it did 
get better. Again, I know that that can be a side effect  of the medication 
itself in some people. I am hoping for you that over time,  it is not an 
issue. I will keep my fingers crossed for you as I do for all  of us here...
 
did blood work today at U of C.  Everybody please send good energy  for a 
great outcome. I have to have another back surgery..healing from  cervical 
surgery pretty well now..in PT..  have to go off sprycel again  for a time to 
do this next surgery ......Four major surgeries in two  years...on and off 
these meds...like Tom said...stay  positive, try to  stay strong and move 
your body in some way.,
 
Best,
 
Beth
-----Original  Message-----
From: TEDBDD <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent:  Fri, Dec 13, 2013 8:40 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Getting  Results


 
Mar....welcome to the group!  I, too am on 20mg of Sprycel  (disatinib) 
after difficulties on Tasigna, Gleevec and higher doses of  Sprycel.  My 
journey is outlined in the notes at the bottom of this  email.  I would 
recommend 
you establishing the same...it is really  helpful in letting others know 
what your journey has been and doctors love  it if you have to change 
physicians.  
 
Each person seems to react a little differently to these Tyrosine  Kinease 
Inhibitors...I find that exercise and a positive attitude are the  best 
tools to deal with the speed bumps we have on our unique CML  journeys.  
Collectively, we are so fortunate to have these amazing TKI  drugs available to 
us...for we probably wouldn't be around without  them!
 
All the best...and Dave is right...you can get a lot of info from this  
group!
 
Tom in KY
 
Tom Dunham, BD: 8/1941  Updated:12-13-13
Zavie Miller's Zero Club #1292
DX CML  12-23-2008
MDA Protocol: Tasigna-400mg; 2xday-1/09
On Flecainide for  AF...still had frequent episodes
Q PCR bone@ MDA…0.17 on 7/09
Acute  Pancreatitis-7/5/09
Stopped Tasigna-7/13/09
Q PCRU blood @  Baptist…undetected-7-29-09 !
Started  Gleevec-400mg/day-7/31/09
Developed rash ~ 8/19/09
Rash treated with  Steroids..improvement
Rash worsens~9/22/09
Stopped  Gleevec-9/28/09
Restarted Gleevec @300mg/day-10/8/09
Stopped  Gleevec-10/13/09-toxic rash\
AF returned infrequently
Q PCR  bone-0.05
Started Sprycel @ 100mg/day-10/20/09
Some AF...increased  FLecainde..1, 2x/day
Q PCR bone @ MDA..0.07
Stopped Alcohol…no AF, ½  Flecainide 2x/day
Q PCR Blood @ Baptist…Non Detectible-12-13-10
Q PCR  Bone @ MDA..0.01--2-25-11
Q PCR Blood @  Baptist…Undetectible-5-19-11
Reduced Flecainide to 1/2 per day
Pleural  and pericardial Effusion: stopped Sprycel-12-6-'11
Prednisone 50mg /day  to combat PE; 12/14/'11 gradual reduction
Pleural Effusion clear  12-21-11
Started Sprycel 70mg/day..12-23-11
QPR bone @ MDA..  <0.01...2-16-12
Started Sprycel 50mg/day..3-10-12
Chest  pains...slightly more PL Eff 4-19-12
Steroid Dose pack to  alleaviate..still on 50mgs
Change to 20 mgs/day Sprycel..4-26-12
Chest  clear, effusion gone-5-14-12
Q-PCR Blood @  Baptist-Undetectible-6-13-12
Neuropathy moving up legs, some weakness  noted--12
Q-PCR Blood @ MDA..<0.01…8-21-12
Q-PCR Bone @  MDA…<0.01….3-5-13
Q-PCR Blood @  Baptist….Undetectible..6-19-13
Q-PCR Blood @  MDA...Undetectible...9-19-13

 
 
In a message dated 12/13/2013 6:34:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes:

Hi Mar,  I've been with this group of people  starting I think back in 
2001.  Found out I had CML two weeks before  Xmas of 1998.  Was put on 
Interferon for 3 months which almost killed  me.  A couple of months later my 
Doctor 
in Chicago, Northwestern  University put me in a study with 7 others people 
from Chicago land.   I was the only one from Northwest Indiana.  Their were 
200 people  from the US in this study.  Novartis was head of the  research 
of this study.  This was before Gleevec was approved by  the FDA.
 
Within 6 months I was in remission and I've been on  STI571 (Gleevec) all 
these years.  Started on Jan. 10th of  2000.  You will find out that in this 
CML group you will get more  information from our members and their care 
takers that you won't get from  most Doctors.  If at any time you have any 
questions this is the  place to get the real facts.   Good luck to you and 
welcome to  the group.
 
Dave (Greenie) Greenberg
 
 
In a message dated 12/13/2013 2:15:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

Thank you everyone for responding. Feels less like you are  on an isolated 
island... there are no support groups in my area... so, I  do appreciate 
your emails with encouragement and support.   


I was glad to hear there are other medications. I gather this is a  long 
journey... to figure out which drug and at what level... not one  that can be 
answered quickly. I find the side effects difficult to deal  with as I 
continue to work. Not sure if it is possible to work while all  of this is 
being 
figured out.  Do most people continue working?   


Richard, diagnosed in 2003 and there are still mountains?  I  guess I am 
expecting to much to soon. 


Beth,  My hematologist specialist didn't put me on the 100mg I  was on at 
the beginning because of the first toxicity. I have been on 20  mg which 
doesn't seem to be much but, I can't believe my body doesn't  even like the 20 
mg... I just learned today I am back into the toxicity  and cytopenias.   I 
have side effects to Diasanatib I didn't have  on the Gleevec as well. I 
found the 100 mg gave me insomnia, medically  induced depression and rash... I 
only have the rash at 20mg.  But,  seem to have a lot of bone pain lately.


I am giving you all a big hug and thank you for your emails as it  is nice 
to know there are people who understand much more than I do  (being such a 
newbie).  I look forward to hearing from all and  learning from you. I hope 
all of you are doing well in your own journey  :) 


Ididn't know that 1and 8 meant life.. will post this in front of me  for 
inspiration!


Cheers,
Mar

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:25:25 PM UTC-8, Richard  H wrote:  
Welcome to this group.  Almost every one has had  problems adjusting to the 
meds.  Try your best to remain positive  as that seems to help most of us. 
We are here to listen and in return  we give back what we have learned to 
get over this little hill at  this moment.  I was diagnosed in 2003 and the 
mountain I have to  climb is still on the horizon.    


Richard H.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:42:51 AM  UTC-6, Mar wrote:  
Hi, I am new to the group. I was diagnosed January 10  2013. Since then I 
have been on Gleevec, failed (due to toxicity  twice) and was switched to 
Dasatinib which I have toxicity to as  well and had to stop taking the 
medication. Each time I have had the  toxicity my blood levels are so low that 
it 
takes 4-5 weeks for them  (neutrophils, platelets and wbc's) to go back to 
even the lower  range of normal. Thus, I have not yet had any cytogenic or 
molecular  recovery.. if anything, my last result was going backward. I have  
another appointment on December 19th to see if there is any recovery  at 
all... I am keeping my fingers crossed. It has been quite the  roller 
coaster... 
I am not sure if others have had the same type of  roller coaster in the 
first year.   


I just ran into this group tonight and I appreciated reading  others emails 
about their recovery... thank- you.. Hope to be able  to post one of my own 
recovery stories one of these days.


Mar









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