Thanks Skip.  I really didn't know what to do for a while, but was so upset 
over it all.  My Home nurse, who is wonderful, called and I literally came 
apart at that moment telling her what had happened.  She called her supervisor, 
and now I don't  have to put up with this person any more. I'm not complaining, 
but I have enough issues on my plate, and this person doesn't have a clue.  
Marty always helps me deal with these things and does a great job.  He has 
become such a good friend and I really trust what he tells me. I know how much 
he admires you, so that says a lot for you.  Glad that you're doing so well.  
It's good to see you on line.

18's and hugs,
Millie
----- Original Message -----
From: Skip Duffie <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:31:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Marty and Beth Millie and All

Hi all, hope everyone is having a wonderful, day,.  I was reading the posts 
here and I must say, if someone made threats to me, I would report it right 
away.  
I wish to talk on PICC Lines though.  I see so many of us who talk about 
getting and giving blood that I wonder why your ONC has not ordered PICC Lines.
I have had one for about 5 years now.  It has made life so much better.  If 
your interested about getting a PICC line go to UTUBE and search on PICC Line 
insertion, cleaning, removal, and prep.  It does not HURT.  I have had mine 
changed and it was so simple and quick. . some people seem to clot easy as 
compared to me
(platelets 0 - 25) so all they do is put about 5cc anti clotting in each line.  
well if your interested as I said go to utube . It is a bit of a bother as, it 
must be cleaned often, but I have to be in hospital twice weekly, so it is ok 
for me.  
Be safe all
Skip Duffie
DX 1977 ( or when the dead sea was just sick <smile>)



On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:22:38 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
  
Hi Millie,
>
>Did I read your post correctly? You say that your therapist threatened you?
>
>Well you did the right thing by letting her boss know about it. I would never 
>put up with anything like that. You may want to consider filing charges with 
>the agency that governs her employment. 
>
>At least your going to get someone that you like and shows you some respect.
>
>18's,
>
>Marty
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 4:42 PM, C.M. Houtz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>>  
>>Jeanie, I do believe 
that you stress to much over your blood work.  If it isn't doing well, 
you'll find out soon enough, and just knowing isn't going to do anything.  
Your doctors are good and let them take care of you  unless you truly feel 
that they aren't doing that.  That is the only time I'd complain.  I 
just went through something terrible with one of the therapists that is 
coming.  I've never liked her, and I just told her boss that I don't want 
her in my house anymore.  She's an over paid idiot.  I won't go into 
it all because I'm still so upset over it all, but think things will work 
out.  If not, I'll just have to figure it all out.  I am tired of her 
threats and it just isn't worth it.  I have another therapist that I love, 
and I believe that she's going to be the one taking over, and I'm fine with 
that.  I told the head nurse that I love every one that's coming 
here, and that it's only the one causing the problems.  When a person 
trying to help you, makes you cry all afternoon, then they're not doing you any 
good.  I'm a strong person, but there's only so much a person can 
take.  Enough about that.  I have handled it and that's what's 
important.   
>>  
>>I do hope that you're 
having a good day, my friend.  I really do try not to worry about things I 
can't do anything about.  What happened today was something I could deal 
with, and I did.  I do believe what Marty says and your mind does control a 
lot of how you're handling this CML.  I need to get rid of the stress in my 
life, and so today I did some of that.  I don't need it and so I'm glad 
that I finally did it.  She has no business working with people that need 
help and she's certainly not helping. 
>>  
>>They're calling for 
possible snow,  Sunday into Monday, but we shall see.  I could live 
without it, that's for sure.  I would love to be in your garden eating all 
of that citrus.  I wouldn't leave.  I love fruit and veggies but love 
them fresh.  Can't get fresher then having them in the yard.  I eat a 
lot of apples here in the Northeast, pears, plums, peaches, raspberries, 
blueberries, etc. etc. and love them so much.  I don't think that there's a 
fruit I don't like. 
>>  
>>You take care of 
yourself, Jeanie.  I just wish you wouldn't worry so much as that isn't 
good for you either. 
>>  
>>Talk to you 
later. 
>>Love & 
Hugs, 
>>Millie 
>>----- Original Message -----  
>>>From: [email protected]  
>>>To: [email protected]  
>>>Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 11:20  AM 
>>>Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Marty and Beth  Millie and All 
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks Marty, My onc said I was too old for a transplant when I was first  
>>>dx in 2004, so Gleevec was the answer for me.  It worked a few years and  
>>>then just quit.  I have a lot of scars in my arms from blood test, but I  
>>>still smile when they stick the needle in because I know it is one tool that 
>>> helped me to fight this CML. 
>>>For those of us who face those blood test regularly, there is always that  
>>>anticipation of "if my blood ok today?"  And what is neat is that most of  
>>>the time our blood is ok; but when you have had the relapses I have faced, 
>>>it  makes a difference in how you face those blood test.  I want to be like  
>>>Millie, and just worry about today and not the next time my blood is 
>>>checked.  hehe Thanks Millie for all your uplifting and advice and thanks to 
>>>all our  CML'ers that are fighting everyday of their lives. 
>>>Marty, I'm glad yours was taken care of and that you are good as far as  the 
>>>CML goes.  Right on about "Cure My Leukemia." AND soon I hope! 
>>>Good luck and Blessings, 
>>>Jeanie<3 
>>>
>>>In a message dated 3/13/2014 9:39:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>[email protected] writes: 
>>>Hi Jeanie,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think that your Oncologist is correct. Getting a blood test  every day 
>>>>would be worse then having it on a scheduled frequency. Can you  imagine 
>>>>worrying about the results each day? 
>>>>
>>>>As I have already  mentioned, one day in the not to distant future you 
>>>>won't have to worry  about getting blood tests because there will finally 
>>>>be a cure for CML. You  mark my words...
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>I vividly remember when I first saw my bone marrow transplant  oncologist. 
>>>>I asked him if he knew what CML stood for. He started to tell me  and I 
>>>>interrupted him. I said what it meant to me was "Cure My Leukemia" and  he 
>>>>did! 
>>>>
>>>>Of course it was through a bone marrow transplant. But, 
    there has been so much done and discovered about this disease and one day 
it 
    will be "Cure My Leukemia" and it will be done!
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>18's,
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Marty
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>>Hi Marty and so good to see you back on.  One of our problems  with CML is 
>>>>>that we can't get our blood checked everyday to see how its  reacting to 
>>>>>the meds so we have to try something for a while and then get  it checked. 
>>>>> I wish there was a machine that we could use to take our  blood daily 
>>>>>like a blood glucose machine.  That would be great! 
>>>>>My onc doesn't want to talk about changing doses; he says if it isn't  
>>>>>broke don't fix it. 
>>>>>Good luck and blessings, 
>>>>>Jeanie<3 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In a message dated 3/11/2014 8:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>>>[email protected] writes: 
>>>>>Hi Peg, you seem to have brought up something that is very  interesting. 
>>>>>"Taking vinegar, lemon juice or even Coke with it first,  before 
>>>>>increasing it".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If that works and I have no reason  to doubt it, then, I think that 
>>>>>>everyone that is using it should discuss  it with their Oncologist. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, you can see what a wonderful  group this really is. People that have 
>>>>>>CML all discussing very useful  things to help out each  other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>18's,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Marty
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM, peg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Beth,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know how scarey this is for you.  
          No one should have to make choices only between bad and worse!  I 
          don't have much to offer on the problem of elevated CPK. That 
          elevation, not a problem in itself is actually a symptom of a bigger 
          problem, myopathy, where the muscles start breaking down, resulting 
          not only in weakness, but damage to the kidneys.  While I had a 
          multitude of problems on Sprycel, including an auto-immune reaction, 
          Myopathy was not one of them.  However, I did have a serious 
          problem with that on Gleevec.  The answer for me was to stop 
          Gleevec and move on to another drug.  Since Gleevec was my first 
          back then, I still had options.   Being on the last one now, 
          it makes the potential for problems a bit more real and scarey.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I can tell you for me that with  all of these drugs a little goes a long 
>>>>>>>way.  Many of the serious  side effects could have been avoided by 
>>>>>>>starting at a smaller dose and  increasing only in response to lagging 
>>>>>>>PCR's.  In both cases with  Gleevec and Sprycel we started at the normal 
>>>>>>>recommended dose, which  in hind sight was far too much for me!  When we 
>>>>>>>started Tasigna  in Nov, after a three month break, we monitored my PCR 
>>>>>>>monthly, and  within two months I was down to trace detectible, and in 
>>>>>>>the third  month I was zero detectible.  That was on 1/4th of the normal 
>>>>>>> dose!  I do believe that less dose equals less side effect  risk.  I 
>>>>>>>also think there is something to Michelle's theory of  using vinegar or 
>>>>>>>lemon juice to increase stomach acid with  Sprycel.  This has been 
>>>>>>>confirmed to me by one of the Docs that  helped develop Sprycel.  If a 
>>>>>>>low dose is not working well over  two consecutive PCR's, I would try 
>>>>>>>vinegar, lemon juice or even
 Coke  with it first, before increasing it.  That will increase the  absorption 
of the drug without increasing the dose itself.  Just  something to think about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Keeping you in my 
          prayers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fight on,
>>>>>>>peg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Monday, March 
          10, 2014 10:36:59 AM UTC-7, Beth wrote: 
>>>>>>>Thank you Jeanie, Marty, Millie, and everyone else who send  
>>>>>>>prayers...etc..I agree how unbelievably important it is to stay in  
>>>>>>>community and know others are there, thinking of you, listening and  and 
>>>>>>>praying each in their own way for you and one another. I am  still off 
>>>>>>>chemo...working on back pain....calming it down...getting  ready to 
>>>>>>>restart up soon. Did BCR on Friday...will see results next  week...and 
>>>>>>>go from there.  I can tell you for me that with all  of these drugs a 
>>>>>>>little goes a long way.   
>>>>>>>>As I re uptake sprycel, I am wondering if anyone has had any  success 
>>>>>>>>managing elevated CPK...with anything besides ongoing  prednizone use? 
>>>>>>>>Trying to keep that side effect under control from  the get go this 
>>>>>>>>time....thoughts?? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Love to all of you, 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Beth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>-----Original  Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: houtz <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>To: 
            cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sat, Mar 8, 
            2014 4:07 pm
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Marty and Beth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just want you to know that I'm thinking about you and hoping that each 
>>>>>>>>day you  
will improve and get your numbers to where they should be.  I pray that you're 
in remission soon and that you can get back to life and all it has to offer.  
You've been through so very much, and I hope that you can listen to your 
surgeon 
and not over do things to soon.  It does take a while to get past any surgery.  
Time heals, so please take it  easy and let your recovery happen.  I'm dealing 
with the pain, and having home care is helping as I don't have to leave the 
house to get the blood work done.  They are getting me a meter to be able to 
monitor my blood thinner from home.  I'm not sure if I'll be approved, but we 
shall see.  I wasn't going to get one, but my nurse says I should have it.  If 
it doesn't work for me, then I'll just have to go get the blood work done.  I'm 
not going to think or worry about it. It will either work for me, or it won't.. 
time will tell. Meanwhile, you take care and keep healing.  Keep us up on how 
things are going 
for you.   You're always on my mind and in my heart and prayers.  I think that, 
as a group, we do well in helping one another and as Marty says, that is what 
we're here for.... to help one another. and I am a firm believer that it works. 
 
I've improved so much in the  past few days and I know that it's because I've 
had all of you to say prayers and encourage  me to get better.  Just know that 
my prayers are being said for all of us. Love and Hugs,
Millie From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 08 Mar 
2014 16:45:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Marty and Beth Thanks Beth, I hope everything is good.  
Sprycel will get them back  into a 
good place, at least it has worked good for me.
Keep healing,
Blessings,
Jeanie<3 In a message dated 3/6/2014 7:39:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes: hi Jeanie! Glad to hear from you...I don't know what my 
counts  are...going 
tomorrow for BCR, will let you know once I get results   back...I was not 
in remission when I had to go off for surgery....so I know  without the meds 
and not in remission that my numbers will be up...so going  back on is a 
priority....
take care, Beth -----Original  Message-----
From: ICANDOALLTTC <[email protected]>
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 4:53 pm
Subject:  Re: [CMLHope] Marty Thanks Beth,
Hang in there; time will heal.  What are your counts since you have  been 
off the drug?
Yes, it's scary off and scary on the drugs.
Hope everyone gets better, and we will all have a block party.
Blessings,
Jeanie<3 In a message dated 3/6/2014 5:30:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes: Dear Marty and Millie and all 
my other  CML family, Just a note to say I am thinking about you, praying for 
you, holding  you 
close. I am slowly healing as well...back surgery taking much longer to  heal 
than anyone could predict...nerves and wound healing.... somewhat  
compromised from long term use of our meds...will re-uptake sprycel next  
week....not what surgeon wants..but too long off becomes too  scary to  
me....must get 
numbers back in control.....always a balancing act..for most  I know....my 
woes seem far lighter than many here, so today I am praying  that MIllie's 
pain eases and Marty, - the the new fistula  ripens quickly so it can be used 
as soon as possible....hoping a donor  will come any day...... and Pat 
E...wherever you are, I am praying for you as well....
take care to all, love and light, Beth   -----Original  Message-----
From: Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]_ ([email protected]) >
To: cmlhope  <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent:  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Marty Dear Millie and everyone else, Thank you for your 
concern.  I am slowly getting back to myself. Dialysis 
is becoming more difficult and  I am in need of a kidney transplant soon. A 
new fistula was put into my  other arm but it has to mature for another month 
and a half in order to be  used.  Millie, I'm so sorry to hear that you have to 
go through  all of that. As 
you pray for me so do I for you and everyone  else. I have to get going now. 
I'm really tired. Until next time... 18's, Marty On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:21 
PM, houtz <[email protected]_ 
([email protected]) > wrote: I  am so concerned about Marty.  Has anyone heard 
from him besides me.  The 
last I heard was days ago and he was having trouble with his  dialysis and 
sounded really bad.  If anyone has heard, would you  please put it on our 
site.  I will write again today and he has  always answered my e-mails, even 
not feeling well.  They were short,  but I knew that he was not doing well.  
If I hear any more, I'll let  you know.  I know that dialysis wasn't going 
well and don't know if  they were able to use his new port or not.  Actually, 
it's not a  port, but has another name that I forget.  I haven't heard from 
any  of you, so if you are checking your e-mails, please let me know what's  
going on with each one of you. My latest is that, even on 1/2 dose  of the 
Tasigna, I'm still in 
remission.  The bad news is that every  muscle and joint in my body is 
screaming 
and 
they put me back on Home  Care.  I can hardly do anything.  I did manage to 
go downstairs  for a while today.  My physical therapist came and had me go 
down..  This after noon my occupational therapist is coming to work on my  
upper body strength.  She made it worse a year ago when she worked on  it, so 
if that happens this time, I'll tell her that I don't want any.  The gal 
that worked on my legs today was very good, and I want to  keep her.  The 
other one doesn't listen to anything you tell her. Oh  well, others have thrown 
her out of their house, and I just might do the  same thing.  I have an aid 
that comes every couple of days to bathe  me as I can't get into the shower 
right now.  I'd fall if I tried.  I can't use my walker very well, and just 
getting from my bedroom to  the bathroom is horrible, causing me so much 
pain.  I have to have  someone with me when I attempt that.  My aid and the 
nurse that comes  a couple of times a week are wonderful.  I had them the last 
two  times I was under home care.  I know that the nurse is going to take  
blood tomorrow.  That's always fun. :>)  I'm trying hard to  do what I have 
to do.  My wonderful son is doing everything for me  right now and I want to 
get back to the point where I can do things for  myself. Enough about me.  I 
just wanted to catch up on these things  with all of you.  I hope that 
you're all doing as well as you can.  Write and tell me how it's going.  Thank 
God for my television,  phone, and computer in my room.  It's nice to be able 
to connect with  the world.  It keeps me out of trouble. Again, if anyone knows 
 anything about Marty, please let us all know.  If I 
hear anything,  I'll let you know. Marty has become a good friend to me and 
to others on  our site. Hugs,
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