Seventeen and on my first adventure  this wonderful world we live in.

Richard H. 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:38:47 AM UTC-6, Icandoallttc wrote:

> That's cute Richard--how old were you?
> My IV went in good-no swelling.  
> This morning I am sick-- sore throat and mucus.  
> Glad everything went good Sherri but couldn't they give you something for 
> pain??
> Blessings Jeanie 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Richard H <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like needles but do not have a 
> phobia.  When I arrived  at boot camp the first thing was get our shots. We 
> walked through a line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They were 
> using hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was changed 
> while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow cadence 
> of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each arm.  
> All of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in front of yelled 
> "BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of me had it hanging in his 
> arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for allergy testing I then had to sit in 
> the dentist chair I promptly passed out.  
>
> Richard H.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>
>  Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I had a blood 
> test it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I 
> worked for him when I was in High School.  They did the blood work and he 
> walked in after and took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head 
> and pushed it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from 
> passing out.
>  
> Then when I went into the Navy I was on active duty for a year and a haft 
> they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you know what 
> happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years go by and 
> I end up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are good and 
> some are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady 
> took the needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was 
> square and bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other side.
>  
> And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much fun that I asked them to 
> do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of them I asked to be put 
> into lala land which they did but I had to have someone drive me home.  My 
> wife has to give me a shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is 
> 1/1/2 in long another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work 
> and no more BMB.  Thank you.
>  
> Take care and hang in their,
>  
> greenie
>  
>  In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Hi Marty. 
> How are you?
> I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood area 
> and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the 
> endoscopy.  
> Long day. 
> Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some bad. 
>  
> Pray for me and all in need. 
> Love Jeanie 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jeanie, 
>
> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two. 
> Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA 
> with little or no pain. 
>
> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
>
> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on 
> the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and 
> couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school 
> the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
>
> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get 
> all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought 
> it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
>
> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow 
> transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having 
> 17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always 
> together. Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and 
> lodge in my illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to 
> remove that needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle.     
>  
>
> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large 
> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they 
> stay in there for four hours.
>
> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay 
> that much attention to them anymore.
>
>  So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting 
> some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound 
> warped from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends 
> on how one looks at it I guess...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been dreading it 
> for some reason.  
> I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula operations are 
> tedious.  
> The procedure I dread most is the IV. 
> My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I didn't 
> feel a thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue mark left by the IV 
> and no sign at all.  I have never had this before.  It's usually black and 
> blue and swollen. 
> My Bma has hurt very little. Thank The Lord!!!
>
> You are our spice of life and thanks for being there for. And thanks to 
> all if you for your prayers and uplifts. 
> Blessings
> 18's jeanie<emoji_u1f42c.png><emoji_u1f42c.png>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jeanie, 
>
> Good luck with your endoscopy. They usually do put you out for that 
> procedure. I don't know if they will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do 
> you will go to sleep and when you wake up you will still think that the 
> procedure was not yet done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have 
> had at least a dozen of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my 
> arm they use it. It looks like I will be going in for another procedure for 
> my fistula, there is a narrowing in two sections. This will make 13 
> procedures in the last 12  months. I sure hope that a kidney transplant 
> will be coming soon.
>
> I have to share a story about my anesthesia doctor. She knows me so well 
> that we are on a first name basis. So, the last time that I had to be put 
> out I asked her if I could "knock myself out" Of course I was only kidding 
> but she told me that she would let me do it to myself.
>
> So, i'm in the operating room and she is standing over me and she puts the 
> oxygen mask on my head and as she is holding the needle that is connected 
> to me IV she tells me to put my thumb on the plunger but not to push it 
> until she tells me so. 
>
> Ok I got my thumb on the plunger and she tells me to push it very slowly 
> when she counts to three. So, I'm waiting and her thumb is on top of mine 
> and she counts "one" then she starts to count "two" and the next thing I 
> know is that I am waking up in the recovery room. 
>
> When she came to see me I asked her if I was the one that knocked myself 
> out and she just smiled. 
>
> By the way this Propofol is white in color and looks like milk.
>
> Humor is the spice of life.<360.gif>
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty 
>  
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:19 PM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Marty 
> Yes a fl cracker--hope you are great today!!!
> I am going to have an endoscopy thur. 
> First one--they put you to sleep. 
> Blessings
> Jeanie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jeanie, 
>
> You sound like a real southern gal. As for me, I'm just a good old plain 
> city boy that also loves to go fishing. When I was a kid my father would 
> take me out deep sea fishing and my favorite fish was blue fish. My mother 
> used to cook it in milk to get rid of the fishy taste. It was really good 
> but I can't seem to find blue fish here in Florida.
>
> Anyway, I am kind of surprised to hear that your having a difficult time 
> with Hydrea. That was the first drug that I got along with Allopurinal when 
> I first had CML.
>
> Both of those drugs never gave me any problems except if I took too much 
> and it would take about a week for them to start working. Once they did 
> then my blood counts would drop sometimes drastically so the doses had to 
> be adjusted, but I never got sick or anything like that from them.
>
> Good luck,
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:59 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
> My family all love to fish, and we keep and eat everything legalhehe.
> I was reared on good fried to a golden brown perch that live in the Fl 
> lakes and rivers.
> There is nothing better than good fried mullet with their roe fried to t 
> golden brown.
> We love it with grits and tomato gravy and cornbread.
> I am feeling some better, but taking Hydrea is no fun at all.  Knocks you 
> for a loop.
> I haven't heard about the pontatinib yet.
> My doctor says its a powerful drug and has to be kept monitored every week.
> Well all the drugs are powerful as far as I am concerned.
> Good luck everyone,
> Jeanie<3
>  
>  
>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 2:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Hi again Greenie, 
>
> Like you said, don't look back but only forward. 
>
> By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or fish.
>
> I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they belong. 
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the stocks was 
> Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was before Gleevec was 
> in any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost $43,000.00 and I pulled 
> my money out and fired him. If I, would have, could of.  Of course I wish I 
> would have kept some of my early Corvette's that I had I would be worth a 
> more money then Novartis.  But can't look back, just look forward.
>  
> Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort Myers not far from the 
> beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the beach and caught 8 fish.  
> But I do not keep any, back into the water they go where they belong.
>  
> greenie
>   
>  
>  
>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Hi Greenie, 
>
> First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton 
> Beach. If we are not to far maybe we can do lunch one of these days. If my 
> memory serves me right I think that you may be in Ft Meyers??? If so then I 
> guess that lunch is out of the question...
>
> About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows Dr. 
> Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried finding 
> a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis which was 
> at the time an agricultural drug company. 
>
> One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571 and 
> it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because of 
> the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the 
> principals of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of 
> investors into the company. 
>
> At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people 
> would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price 
> was $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry 
> shares of Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share. 
>
> Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production 
> but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10 
> years. With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one 
> and a half years, and became Gleevec.
>
> I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I ever 
> sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock 
> portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously 
> gone up and up over the years.  
>
> I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably 
> there are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have 
> some options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would 
> be nice if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are 
> now, and maybe consider dropping their price for Gleevec. Wishful thinking? 
> Maybe but maybe not, hopefully...
>
> But Greenie, as you mentioned it is all about greed and money.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so true about Gleevec and 
> CML.  It's unfortunate that greed and money has to be in the equations in 
> the final outcome.  After Interferon that almost killed me all that was 
> left was Hydrea.  So when Doctor Tallman called me and wanted be in his 
> study for STI571 I had no idea what was going on.  Within 3 months I was 
> 85% clean and after 6 months I was clean.  Yes their have been over the 
> years some up's and down's put that's part of life.  Like my late Aunt used 
> to always say when she was in her 80's I just take one day at a time.  
>  
> I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the old hour glass is 
> starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people drive here in 
> Florida the end could come anytime I leave the friendly confines and that's 
> not any guarantee because most of the people speed and run the stop signs 
> in this 55 and older community.
>  
> Keep in touch,
>  
> Greenie
>   
>  In a message dated 1/15/2015 8:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
> Hi Greenie,
>
> So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to know 
> because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is responsible 
> for saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you wouldn't be here 
> right now. 
>
> If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is the 
> advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always say that 
> there will be a cure for CML and you can mark my words it WILL come soon. 
> Just like all of the things that were not around years ago now they are 
> coming.
>
> GOD bless you Greenie!
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty 
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shannon L <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr (started roughly 3 
> yrs after dx) 
> Shannon
>
> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC+11, greenie wrote: 
>
>  Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15 years. 
> Starting to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and 
> age thing. 75 years old.
>  
> greenie
>   
>  In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
> thinks.
> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
> personally twice; never had that happen before.
> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny 
> the same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation.  Will let 
> everyone know.
> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
> Pray for me and everyone in need.
> Blessings
> Jeanie 
> (18) 
>  
>  
>  In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
>  WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add 
> my problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the 
> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday 
> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my 
> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the 
> treatment he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see 
> stage.  My ONC tells me I am too informed about my condition and that 
> challenges most blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML.  
> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>
> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>
>  ...

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