Wishing you good luck on your hospital visit.  Hope all goes well. 

Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s
Dx 1/2004
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015

> On May 6, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> That's what we are all here, to share our knowledge and experiences.
> 
> Anyway, I go into the hospital again tomorrow afternoon to have my prostate 
> operation. If everything goes ok then this horrible catheter will finally 
> come out after more then ten weeks. It gave me a uti and I am on Cipro and it 
> seems to have cleared up but I still have to take it for another week. By the 
> way there will be another catheter put in to make sure all of the blood and 
> debris are drained out but for only a day or so.
> Wish me good luck...
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty 
> 
>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, the cost of Gleevec has tripled since my first dose in 2002.  But, 
>> everything else in my part of the world.  Like Marti, if we didn't have 
>> Gleevec or six or seven other choices we would not have a chance to say,  "I 
>> will probably did of something else.  When I went off Gleevec Nov. 2006 
>> because of the side effects the only major study (25 people in England) most 
>> had returned to Gleevec in 2 years. I did lose the coveted "non detected" in 
>> about 3 years, but I decided because of the CML groups with the positive 
>> thinkers to see how far I could go. Well, I made it 6 1/2 years before those 
>> counts started a steady climb and was asked to please return to Gleevec.  
>> The statics I am seeing are still claiming only about 5000 people are 
>> diagnosed each year.  I would dare suggest that .the increased new people 
>> you are seeing is due to increased awareness of our band of CMLers that are 
>> willing to share our experience.  Our CMLers that precipitate in  the 
>> doctors conferences letting them know we welcome those newcomers to ask 
>> about our experiences.  When I respond to someone it is always my personal 
>> story and what I have learned, at that point I can only hope another CMler 
>> will share their story. 
>> 
>> Richard H.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:35:31 AM UTC-5, Suzieq wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello there fellow CML Survivors:   
>>> 
>>>  My 1st question: Does anyone know about the patent on Gleevec and if it's 
>>> about to expire?  I was thinking it had up till this month,  or the last 
>>> time I saw the information on it, I thought their extension ended sometime 
>>> in May of 2015.  I don't remember where it was that we could go and look at 
>>> that information.   I told my husband that I thought for sure the price 
>>> would drop on Gleevec by now,  but from what I've seen from some new cases, 
>>>  it looks as if it's increased in price.  Course,  I didn't see the 
>>> quantity that the price was for,  that could make a difference, I'm sure. 
>>> 
>>> 2nd question: How many TKI's are there now for CML (approved and also those 
>>> in trials)?  There are two groups I am in on Facebook and so many new cases 
>>> being dx'ed every day that it's just unreal.  I get upset with some of the 
>>> CML Survivors in these groups and what they will tell these newly dx'ed 
>>> people who seem scared to death & looking for good information.  I even 
>>> talked to my doctor about some of this stuff that they are saying.  One 
>>> told a new dx'ed person that his doctor told him when he was first dx'ed,  
>>> "well, will put you on this drug (didn't specify which one) and you will 
>>> take it every day. This and this will happen and you'll be cured within a 
>>> year."  I about came unglued when I read that.  And,  I made sure in my 
>>> comment to this newly dx'ed person when I was trying to uplift her and give 
>>> her advice of what I went through and what helped me over the past 11 years 
>>> that I would be very leary of any doctor who told me that I would be 
>>> "cured" in a year!  Infact, I would be finding another Hem./Onc quickly.  I 
>>> told her that as far as I knew,  there still is no cure for CML that they 
>>> know of. That these drugs are too new and not enough research to let them 
>>> know if it might be a cure one day.  I told her that you can become 
>>> "undetected" or "non detected" after being on the TKI's after some time.  I 
>>> told her that I call it a "drug induced remission" (those are my words, not 
>>> a doctors, lol).  There are these "so called experts" who have CML and 
>>> looked at all the info and try and tell the new ones that there's studies 
>>> going on and some seemed to be cured. (that's false information)  My doctor 
>>> told me (and I have read the info, too) that the one study that was done in 
>>> England, I believe it was, had several go off their Gleevec.  Within a 
>>> year's time, 50% had their CML return.  I'm thinking that discussion I had 
>>> with her (doctor) was about 2 & 1/2 years ago when I asked to lower my 
>>> Gleevec dosage.   
>>> 
>>> I always mention this group to those in the groups on FaceBook.  I tell 
>>> them that after I was dx'ed in January 2004 & started Gleevec soon there 
>>> after,  I thought I was going to die because of the awful side effects.  I 
>>> said that I spent most of my time lying on my living room sofa or before 
>>> the throne in the bathroom.  After about 4 months of this,  I accidently 
>>> run upon this group(CML Hope) on line and it is what "saved" me.  Back 
>>> then,  I think Gleevec was the only drug at the time besides the trials for 
>>> Tasigna & Sprycel.  We all had each other to help & we did.  Whatever we 
>>> found that helped relieve a certain side effect, we shared.  What worked 
>>> for trying to keep food down,  we shared.  If someone needed help 
>>> explaining all the tests and those numbers, we shared.   
>>> 
>>> So you see,  I still appreciate each and every one of you.  I miss those 
>>> who've gone on before us.  God bless you and please have a wonderful day 
>>> today.  Thank you 
>>> 
>>> Keep Looking up,
>>> Breath in, Breath out, Move Forward,
>>> 
>>> Suzieq
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