I will wish you luck on your procedure as well as a prayer for a successful 
out flow (OOPs)  come.

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:50:29 AM UTC-5, wa2yyx wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> That's what we are all here, to share our knowledge and experiences.
>
> Anyway, I go into the hospital again tomorrow afternoon to have my 
> prostate operation. If everything goes ok then this horrible catheter will 
> finally come out after more then ten weeks. It gave me a uti and I am on 
> Cipro and it seems to have cleared up but I still have to take it for 
> another week. By the way there will be another catheter put in to make sure 
> all of the blood and debris are drained out but for only a day or so.
> Wish me good luck...
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty 
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Richard H <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Yes, the cost of Gleevec has tripled since my first dose in 2002.  But, 
>> everything else in my part of the world.  Like Marti, if we didn't 
>> have Gleevec or six or seven other choices we would not have a chance to 
>> say,  "I will probably did of something else.  When I went off Gleevec Nov. 
>> 2006 because of the side effects the only major study (25 people in 
>> England) most had returned to Gleevec in 2 years. I did lose the coveted 
>> "non detected" in about 3 years, but I decided because of the CML groups 
>> with the positive thinkers to see how far I could go. Well, I made it 6 1/2 
>> years before those counts started a steady climb and was asked to please 
>> return to Gleevec.  The statics I am seeing are still claiming only about 
>> 5000 people are diagnosed each year.  I would dare suggest that .the 
>> increased new people you are seeing is due to increased awareness of our 
>> band of CMLers that are willing to share our experience.  Our CMLers that 
>> precipitate in  the doctors conferences letting them know we welcome those 
>> newcomers to ask about our experiences.  When I respond to someone it is 
>> always my personal story and what I have learned, at that point I can only 
>> hope another CMler will share their story.  
>>
>> Richard H.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:35:31 AM UTC-5, Suzieq wrote:
>>
>>> Hello there fellow CML Survivors:   
>>>
>>>  My 1st question: Does anyone know about the patent on Gleevec and if 
>>> it's about to expire?  I was thinking it had up till this month,  or the 
>>> last time I saw the information on it, I thought their extension ended 
>>> sometime in May of 2015.  I don't remember where it was that we could go 
>>> and look at that information.   I told my husband that I thought for sure 
>>> the price would drop on Gleevec by now,  but from what I've seen from some 
>>> new cases,  it looks as if it's increased in price.  Course,  I didn't see 
>>> the quantity that the price was for,  that could make a difference, I'm 
>>> sure. 
>>>
>>> 2nd question: How many TKI's are there now for CML (approved and also 
>>> those in trials)?  There are two groups I am in on Facebook and so many new 
>>> cases being dx'ed every day that it's just unreal.  I get upset with some 
>>> of the CML Survivors in these groups and what they will tell these newly 
>>> dx'ed people who seem scared to death & looking for good information.  I 
>>> even talked to my doctor about some of this stuff that they are saying.  
>>> One told a new dx'ed person that his doctor told him when he was first 
>>> dx'ed,  "well, will put you on this drug (didn't specify which one) and you 
>>> will take it every day. This and this will happen and you'll be cured 
>>> within a year."  I about came unglued when I read that.  And,  I made sure 
>>> in my comment to this newly dx'ed person when I was trying to uplift her 
>>> and give her advice of what I went through and what helped me over the past 
>>> 11 years that I would be very leary of any doctor who told me that I would 
>>> be "cured" in a year!  Infact, I would be finding another Hem./Onc 
>>> quickly.  I told her that as far as I knew,  there still is no cure for CML 
>>> that they know of. That these drugs are too new and not enough research to 
>>> let them know if it might be a cure one day.  I told her that you can 
>>> become "undetected" or "non detected" after being on the TKI's after some 
>>> time.  I told her that I call it a "drug induced remission" (those are my 
>>> words, not a doctors, lol).  There are these "so called experts" who have 
>>> CML and looked at all the info and try and tell the new ones that there's 
>>> studies going on and some seemed to be cured. (that's false information) 
>>>  My doctor told me (and I have read the info, too) that the one study that 
>>> was done in England, I believe it was, had several go off their Gleevec.  
>>> Within a year's time, 50% had their CML return.  I'm thinking that 
>>> discussion I had with her (doctor) was about 2 & 1/2 years ago when I asked 
>>> to lower my Gleevec dosage.   
>>>
>>> I always mention this group to those in the groups on FaceBook.  I tell 
>>> them that after I was dx'ed in January 2004 & started Gleevec soon there 
>>> after,  I thought I was going to die because of the awful side effects.  I 
>>> said that I spent most of my time lying on my living room sofa or before 
>>> the throne in the bathroom.  After about 4 months of this,  I accidently 
>>> run upon this group(CML Hope) on line and it is what "saved" me.  Back 
>>> then,  I think Gleevec was the only drug at the time besides the trials for 
>>> Tasigna & Sprycel.  We all had each other to help & we did.  Whatever we 
>>> found that helped relieve a certain side effect, we shared.  What worked 
>>> for trying to keep food down,  we shared.  If someone needed help 
>>> explaining all the tests and those numbers, we shared.   
>>>
>>> So you see,  I still appreciate each and every one of you.  I miss those 
>>> who've gone on before us.  God bless you and please have a wonderful day 
>>> today.  Thank you 
>>>
>>> Keep Looking up,
>>> Breath in, Breath out, Move Forward,
>>>
>>> Suzieq
>>>
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