Hi Frank
<>More than "content", its "data", so no need for version control, in my
opinion (changes on business data should be registered in the system, but
it's not the same).<>

1) I was referring to the CM function here, as Brendan says 'which seemed to
do much of what I think I
 would want it to do," (not better specified what he needs) If the
enterprise portal technology supports CM functions, I think Brendan needs to
be very clear to what extent  I think it is relatively easy for any
enterprise software these days to add a layer of content authoring/editing
functions to existing software, if that is what is needed, but it may not
supply the full extent of CM functionalities. I also see a trend towards
pure CMS technology opening up to various applications. That makes sense.
2) What I see happening is that 'content' is complementing 'data' - and
viceversa . Knowledge is everywhere, and surely not it one type of
repository only.
Also, from the systems viewpoint  I consider content as data, but that is my
vision of the world, no need to be shared.
I think 'is content data' dilemma  has already been widely discussed.

Of course the ERP vendor will try to sell you the Portal as a bundle with
the ERP, but that's another story, and still 2 different products / set of
functionality.
Yes, this is why clearcut  requirements are the basis of this judgement.
But we know that.


Cheers
pdm
Content-wire.com




Best Regards,

Franck Lumpe
Iberplus Internet, S.L.
www.iberplus.es
"E-Business Consultants"


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From: "CM News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Foley, Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [cms-list] PeopleSoft Enterprise Portal


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> So out of the blue I get called into a meeting by the VP to see a demo of
> PeopleSoft's Enterprise Portal, which seemed to do much of what I think I
> would want it to do, and more beautifully the money to purchase this would
> come out of our PeopleSoft budget, ....I am thus inclined to take the
bait,
> but as part of my due dilligence, would
> like to know if anyone has implemented this and has feedback in either
> direction on whether it delivers what it promises. <>
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> Brendan
> About a year ago, after researching the CM space for a couple of years, it
> became clear to me that portal/enterprise planning/CMS technology were
> destined to converge. Since then, there have been many alliances among
> leaders in the respective segments, to ensure interoperability.  It has
also
> become clear over the past twelve months that product development in the
> respective segments has been directed towards extending the functionality
of
> the respective products, so that now some CMS can perform CRM functions
> (campaign management for example) and some Portal technology can deliver
CM
> functions, like authoring, publishing, etc.
> This is obviously showing that way technology is maturing, although we are
> not quite clear what the long term consequences might be for individual
> players.
> I have a notional knowledge enterprise portal technology, and I know
> Peoplesoft are market leaders etc.
> As far as 'would it do what it promises' depends entirely on your
functional
> specs. If I were you I would compile two different lists of requirements,
> one rigorously for CM requirements, one for ERP requirements, then
evaluate
> how the product meets those criteria in comparison to other products.
> I would be very interested to find out how ERP technology delivers 'pure'
CM
> functions, like content version control for example. I would speculate
that
> while such a product could meet 'generic' CM tasks, it may not provide
> sophisticated content lifecycle mechanisms as an advanced CM product.
> But then again, maybe your case does not require advanced content
lifecycle
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> Let me know what you find out, I am interested
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