This forum seems to be slow in its response. I am surprised that A. A.
hasn't dusted off his lecture and sent it. And there are others who
usually pick up on that type of statement. Maybe Chuckie hid the lecture
and Alan can't find it :-)


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CMSTSO Pipelines Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John P. Hartmann
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FW: Rita+*VAR*+CALLPIPE
> 
> >>> We don't use ADDRESS COMMAND.  We exploit and depend on 
> ADDRESS CMS.
> 
> You be glad this is not an IBM internal forum ten years ago.  
> You'd have needed serious attention in the burns unit.
> 
> pipe='rexxvars 1|take 1|console'
> Address COMMAND
> 'PIPE' pipe
> 'RITA' pipe
> 
> Gets me
> 
> s CMS COMMAND RSVDLNSX REXX Q2 rsvdlnsx ?
> s CMS COMMAND RSVDLNSX REXX Q2 rsvdlnsx ?
> 
> Where rsvdlns is a stage in the pipeline that runs the EXEC 
> with the test cases through a COMMAND recursion into the 
> pipeline to trap the test output and stick it at the bottom 
> of the screen so that it stays around.
> 
> The only way you can see RITA's REXX program is to do a 
> COMMAND recursion within the pipeline that RITA runs.  Then 
> you can count your way back to something before the current 
> pipeline set was started and you will indeed find another 
> REXX environment on the SUBCOM chain.
> 
> Like I said, one has to go out of one's way to trip over this.
> 
>    j.
> 
> 
> 2008/5/29 SPITZ, HOBART CTR DFAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > John is right.  I was not clear in my first note, although 
> the second 
> > one spells out "accessing and updating the callers 
> variables".  Most 
> > of the *vars* in CALLPIPEs use the numeric operand that accesses a 
> > higher level caller's variables.  As I said elsewhere, the problem 
> > seems to be more limited than I thought:  It happens when we use 
> > CALLPIPE CMS XXX and XXX uses PIPE ... *VAR* 1 ... .  That is not a 
> > big enough problem that we can't work around it.
> >
> > There are no RITA EXECs or PIPE EXECs.
> >
> > I meant what I said about the "pipe" global variable:
> >
> >        Pipe = "rita" /* actually set from a config file, 
> ... or not. 
> > */
> >
> >        Pipe "(listerr ... )",
> >
> > We don't use ADDRESS COMMAND.  We exploit and depend on ADDRESS CMS.
> >
> > Sorry for any confusion.
> >
> > Would anyone care to answer my questions about the ALL stage?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CMSTSO Pipelines Discussion List 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John P. Hartmann
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] FW: Rita+*VAR*+CALLPIPE
> >
> > >>> PIPE is "pipe", and not when it's "rita"
> >
> > You didn't mean that, right?  You meant that pipes are issued with 
> > ADDRESS COMMAND PIPE and Rita is fired up with ADDRESS 
> COMMAND RITA, 
> > right?
> >
> > If not I'll bet you half a shiny bit that you have a RITA 
> EXEC around 
> > (or possibly a PIPE one, but that would be even more mindboggling).
> >
> >   j.
> >
> > 2008/5/29 John P. Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > I suspect Hobart is not telling us the whole truth about his
> > experiments.
> > > In particular we might be held in the dark as to which other 
> > > operands
> > he is
> > > using on the REXX variable access stages.
> > >
> > > /*
> > > /*
> > > Signal on novalue
> > > pipe='rexxvars|take 1|console'
> > > Address COMMAND
> > > 'PIPE' pipe
> > > 'RITA' pipe
> > > Exit RC
> > >
> > > Gets me this response (as it should):
> > >
> > > s CMS COMMAND TR EXEC A1 TR
> > > CMS
> > > s CMS COMMAND TR EXEC A1 TR
> > > CMS
> > >     CPU Utilization by Pipeline Specification          29 May 2008
> > > 20:35:34
> > >
> > >
> > >      0.099 (     0.099) ms total in "NoName001" (1
> > > invocation)
> > >
> > >
> > >      2.015 ms
> > > total.
> > >
> > >
> > > Detailed output from Rita in UNNAMED RITA007.
> > >
> > > Adding MAIN to the rexxvar stage gets the same response (as it
> > should).
> > >
> > > Yes, RITA does run a REXX filter to process the output of RUNPIPE.
> > And
> > > yes, if you go out of your way you might be able to 
> interfere with 
> > > it, though I cannot think of how to do so off the top of my head.
> > >
> > >
> > >    j.
> > >
> > > 2008/5/29 SPITZ, HOBART CTR DFAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > That's exactly what it sounds like, but, per p.3 of "Streamlining 
> > > Your
> > >> Pipes", we are using RITA MODULE.  (I don't think we 
> actually had a
> > >> choice.  :-)   )
> > >>
> > >> We use a configuration variable PIPE that we set to RITA when we 
> > >> want
> > to
> > >> get performance info., so we know that the programs 
> haven't changed.
> > >> Our pipe statements look like:
> > >>
> > >>        Pipe "(listerr end ? name" 
> > >> UsedName"."ExecType"."LineNo()")",
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> A number of programs all show the same problem.  Since these 
> > >> programs sub-filters all receive and set the callers variables 
> > >> correctly when PIPE is "pipe", and not when it's "rita", 
> it would 
> > >> seem to be
> > something
> > >> external to the programs.
> > >>
> > >> Any ideas?
> > >>
> > >> - Hobart
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: CMSTSO Pipelines Discussion List 
> > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob 
> van der Heij
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:14 PM
> > >> To: [email protected]
> > >> Subject: Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] FW: Rita+*VAR*+CALLPIPE
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:08 PM, SPITZ, HOBART CTR DFAS 
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > When we run RITA and we have a filter, any *VAR* stages 
> > >> > (REXXVARS,
> > >> VAR,
> > >> > VARLOAD, VARSET, etc.), in a CALLPIPE, seem to not be 
> able to get
> > the
> > >> > variables that they get when we run without RITA.
> > >> >
> > >> > Are we doing something wrong?
> > >>
> > >> Could it be you have a PIPE or RITA EXEC involved. That would 
> > >> introduce another level of execcomm and mess up things.
> > >>
> > >> Rob
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> 

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