Our problem with purging spool files (we use VM:Spool instead of
SFPURGER) is the following:

The date & time stamp on the file is the time it was OPENED. Our Linux
guests run for months. So when a Linux guest crashes or is logged off,
the spool file is immediately eligible for purge -- and we risk losing
error messages. To avoid this, we close the spool files every night.
That saves recent messages, but not messages issue when the guest was
first brought up.

So be careful if you have long-running guests.

-----Original Message-----
From: CMSTSO Pipelines Discussion List
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CMS-PIPELINES] Notification on logoff?

SFPURGER does not purge open files.
And, that SFSPURGE can purge it right after an IPL, I'd like that: after
an
IPL, AUTOLOG1/2 will probably restart the service machine, so it is OK,
and
one'd better not receive that pending" email.

2011/5/5 Schuh, Richard <[email protected]>

> Does the purger purge open files? If not, it would be OK; however, it
will
> not be sent until it is closed. If that happens in conjunction with a
> SHUTDOWN, it may still be caught by the purger before it can be sent.
The
> monitoring SVM is the answer. Here we have 2 machines. One monitors
the
> entire complex of SVMs; the other, only the main monitor.
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CMSTSO Pipelines Discussion List
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:11 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Notification on logoff?
> >
> > That would only work if the virtual machine resets, which it
> > would do if it is IPLed or it logs off.  But, if it just dies
> > and sits there without a VM or CP read (or the 15 minute
> > timebomb is disabled) then your spool file wouldn't be sent.
> >
> > Maybe your server could use the timebomb diagnose (diag 288)
> > via the timebomb package on the VM download page.  Then, if
> > your server crashes, you wouldn't reset the timebomb and it
> > would reboot.  Of course, a better answer is use some kind of
> > monitoring software (commerical product, a tool, or home
> > grown) that would know that your server died and react accordingly.
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Paul Gilmartin
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I tend a service machine that mostly runs unattended,
> > processing work
> > > requests that are sent to its reader (email, actually, from UNIX
> > > systems.)  Yesterday, someone complained that his request
> > had not been
> > > processed.  The service machine had crashed 32 days before!
> > >
> > > I can't diagnose it from the spooled console log -- our site
purges
> > > spool files after two weeks.
> > >
> > > So, I get a weird idea.  In PROFILE EXEC:
> > >
> > >   CP DEFINE PUNCH ...  /* Not 00D */
> > >   CP SPOOL ... to RSCS CONT
> > >
> > >   Use NETDATA, etc. stages to create an email image addressed to
> > >   me, and leave it in the CONT spooled punch.
> > >
> > > When the server crashes, the punch will be closed and the RSCS
will
> > > deliver the email to me.
> > >
> > > o Will this work?
> > >
> > > o Is it abusive of system resources?
> > >
> > > o Is there a better way?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > gil
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Hayden
> > z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
> > IBM, Endicott, NY
> >




--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

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