Am 09.10.2004 um 17:45 schrieb Owen Densmore:
I tried validating the first two sites and they failed badly. Is that a plone problem?
no, thats a content problem. plones templates produce valid output, and if you need it always valid output of the content (via htmltidy) is possible too. i think this features is going to be included in the new 2.1 standard content types.
Is it easy to control the generated xhtml/css? The page was not a table-designed, which is nice.
depends on your definition of easy. a good Plone design process looks like this:
- initial skin with a lot of markup and css
- remove unnecessary parts of the interface via minor template customisation
- override the initial css to get the look that you want
so basically, Plone encourages to leave most templates intact because template customisation often causes major problems when updating a site. also, it gives you the ability to enjoy the latest features and bugfixes of Plone itself, without having to edit your templates to do so.
this is similiar to the css zen garden, because you have a defined set of things already here (in our case xhtml and css). plone does quite a lot of work for you already, and you can focus on the stuff you really want to do, instead of reinventing the world for every project over and over again.
but if you want to, you can create your own skin that has nothing to do with the actual Plone skin at all. it's just *a lot* of work if you want to provide all the functionality of the initial skin.
and yes, you can choose between the default tabled version of the layout, or a quite flexible tableless design (which is a bit broken in 2.0.4 because nobody updated the tableless main template).
to come back to the original topic: this is what i meant, reinventing all things for every project over and over again. thats how i see it, because i don't see the benefits of that "total flexibility" (as in creating a skin per project). this is what i want to know! please, throw me a bone :)
michael -- Michael Zeltner Netalley Networks LLP http://www.netalleynetworks.com/
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