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   On Nov 15, 2004, at 12:12 PM, Arthur Lemmens wrote:

   > Mikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   >
   >> Again, the big missing features seem to be Unicode support and
   >> Win32 support.
   >
   > If "Win32 support" means "runs on Win32 systems", then I think CLisp
   > has both Unicode and Win32 support.  If "Win32 support" means "a usable
   > interface to a reasonable subset of the Win32 API", my impression is
   > that no open source Lisp has this.  (But I've never used CLisp or SBCL
   > or CMUCL, so please ignore me if I'm talking nonsense.)

   What it means is, 'runs on Win32 and provides a means of calling native 
   Win32 APIs.'

   There is some concern about the speed of CLISP. We did some kind of 
   hairy things on the original SK8 to make sure that certain things were 
   fast.

   Turns out that CMUCL does run on Win32, it's just that the version that 
   does is not yet released. We are in active conversations with the 
   person doing the port, and it looks like the features we need are 
   coming soon.

   --me


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   On Nov 15, 2004, at 12:12 PM, Arthur Lemmens wrote:

   > Mikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   >
   >> Again, the big missing features seem to be Unicode support and
   >> Win32 support.
   >
   > If "Win32 support" means "runs on Win32 systems", then I think CLisp
   > has both Unicode and Win32 support.  If "Win32 support" means "a usable
   > interface to a reasonable subset of the Win32 API", my impression is
   > that no open source Lisp has this.  (But I've never used CLisp or SBCL
   > or CMUCL, so please ignore me if I'm talking nonsense.)

   What it means is, 'runs on Win32 and provides a means 
   of calling native Win32 APIs.'

How about: Corman, GCL, and ECL?

I would also hope that it runs on the commercial Lisp systems.
(I use Xanalys Lispworks.)

   There is some concern about the speed of CLISP. We did some kind of hairy
   things on the original SK8 to make sure that certain things were fast.

I've heard that optimizing for CLISP is different than the kind
of guesses that people usually make for compiled Lisp code.


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