Excellent information, Steve!

Thank you very much!

Ron and Lisa

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Steve Sharkey <stevebshar...@gmail.com>wrote:

>   You might also check to see if the cable jumped out of the center slot
> at the top of the board, so may not be running straight up into the boat.
> The cable connects toward the top back edge of the board runs over the top
> than up into the boat. The top of the board has an indentation that helps
> the cable run true.  If the boat has been in some rough weather, which can
> cause the board to bounce up and down and create slack in the cable it’s
> possible for the cable to jump out of this slot and lay to one side of the
> board.  I’ve only had it happen once, but it prevented the board from
> coming up fully.  I just had to swim under the boat with the board down ad
> reach my hand up and get the cable back on track.  Maybe in your case it’s
> jamming in way that prevents the board from going all the way down.
>
> It’s also not that hard to fully remove the board from the boat.  There’s
> a single pin that it pivots on.  You need to locate it toward the forward
> bottom of the keel, grind down the filling material that will cover it on
> both sides of the keel to expose the pin and a large nut.  The board is
> heavy, so you need to support the centerboard and then lift the boat up.
>
> Charlie is right – be sure to replace the cable.  I’ve had mine break on
> two different boats (one a 35 MKIII and my 37) and it always happens at an
> inconvenient time leaving you with a deep draft boat.  I replace mine at
> least every 5 years as preventative maintenance.
>
> Steve Sharkey
> C&C 37
>
>  *From:* Lisa Lias <lisal...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 5:47 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Centerboard issues
>
> Thanks for this. Aside from the effort involved in raising and lowering,
> which could be because as you say, it's heavy, it doesn't go quite all the
> way down. The possibility of critters did come up and it's still possible,
> but the surveyor had his doubts and the previous owner did make it a point
> to raise and lower the board regularly. Even so, something is impeding free
> movement and jamming at the very end of letting it down.
>
> Another possibility is paint build up. The board shows striations through
> to old paint layers.
>
> Either way, we have to get in the trunk, it looks like. We don't want to
> just leave it up after specifically seeking out a boat with a centerboard.
>
> This will be one of the things that happens this winter. Thanks again for
> the overview of how it would be done. We will let anyone who is curious
> know what we discover in this process.
>
> R&L
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:01 PM, <cenel...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Mine is a 1995 XL/kcb so YMMV. Plus there are others on the list who may
>> have an identical c/b model to yours.
>>
>> With those caveats, here goes:
>>
>> Your center board is probably a weighted board--not just a piece of
>> fiberglass. If it is anything like mine, it could weigh close to 1000 lbs.
>> I have a 3:1 purchase and a #30 Lewmar self tailing winch to raise mine
>> and it is tiring.
>>
>> If it isn't weighted, your cb trunk may be filled with living and dead
>> sea creatures, especially if it was not moved up and down much in the past.
>>
>> Of course it could be weighted and filled up with crud as well!.
>>
>> If it is similar to the design used on my boat, the only way to reach the
>> inside of the cb trunk is to lower the board completely until it rests on
>> the forward part of the
>> trunk with the pennant (cb cable) completely loose. This may mean undoing
>> the cable stop mechanism on the cabin top and having the boat in the travel
>> lift during this
>> inspection/clean-out.
>>
>> Otherwise, the yard will likely need to dig a hole under your keel to let
>> it cb down completely. They will likely 'balk' at having your boat up high
>> enough on jack stands to do this without a hole.
>>
>> Of course most yards are not fond of either of these solutions!
>>
>> If you do lower the board completely, replace the pennant and any
>> fittings attached and inspect/replace if necessary all the sheaves and
>> water tight seals that define the path
>> of the pennant as it goes from the board to your cabintop. These may be a
>> little 'tired' after all these years!
>>
>> Also this is a good time to thoroughly clean/paint/fair/etc. the keel/cb
>> trunk and board.
>>
>> OTOH if you don't need/want the higher pointing ability that the deep
>> board provides, you could just 'pin' it in the up position permanently and
>> ...'forget about it".
>>
>> I know several C&C cb cruisers who have done this and never worry about
>> the board--especially if the cb trunk also serves as a serious, shoal draft
>> keel in its own right.
>>
>> Good luck and welcome to the list.
>>
>> Charlie Nelson
>> Water Phantom
>> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>> Greenville, NC
>>
>>
>> cenel...@aol.com
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lisa Lias <lisal...@gmail.com>
>> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 2:32 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 39 Mk1 again -> to Mazatlan
>>
>> Thank you so much! We just got her moved to her new home before Sandy
>> hit. Quite a baptism, but she did fine.
>>
>> Now here's a question for those with centerboards: ours is tight. It will
>> go up and down but it's a bit of a job, (at least compared with our 22 foot
>> Rhodes we sold to help pay for this boat.)
>>
>> The surveyor didn't think it was anything major. But has anyone else had
>> this issue? Are we going to need to have the whole thing taken out and out
>> back in? If so, what is THAT like?
>>
>> Any input is appreciated, and thanks again for the welcome.
>>
>> See some of you on the Bay,
>>
>> Ron and Lisa
>> un-named 35 mk III
>> Rhode River
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Ron, Lisa,
>>> Welcome and congrats!  I have a 35/3 just north of you on Mill Creek,
>>> and there is another person here with a 35/3 centerboard in Rock Creek.
>>> I've only had mine a year, but I've done a lot of upgrades with a lot of
>>> help from the list, and would be happy to answer any questions.
>>>
>>> Joel
>>> 35/3
>>> The Office
>>> Annapolis
>>> 301 541 8551
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Lisa Lias <lisal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We just got our 35 mk III - Greetings, List! - but this made us drool.
>>>>
>>>> Ron and Lisa
>>>> 35 mk III, name change pending ceremony
>>>> Rhode River MD
>>>>
>>>>  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Ditto!
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:53 AM 02/11/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Frederick G Street" <f...@postaudio.net>
>>>>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 2, 2012 11:48:03 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 39 Mk1 again - rudder issue
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in -- let's everyone on the list go in for a few bucks, and we can
>>>>> timeshare…   :^)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's 34F here right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>>>>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I noticed last week that Outrider is for sale. It's tempting, that
>>>>> boat has been almost totally fixed up, according to the listing.
>>>>> Mazatlan...nice and warm this time of year.
>>>>> <http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26c-Sloop-2466572/Mazatlan/Mexico>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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