When the boat was hauled for survey, the board was put down but wouldn't go all the way to full down. The broker and the surveyor tugged on it and got it down a little more, but it was still a little shy of all the way. I'm not visualizing number one clearly but what I'm talking about is full down.
L On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR < keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote: > Ron, Lisa, > > I have the same boat as you, and the boat that Steve's referring to. > (no really, we bought "Beyond the Sea" (nee Impromptu) from Steve in > 2005). We are in Herrington Harbour North. > > When you say "the board won't go down all the way" what do you mean? > There are 2 important "down" positions: > 1. "regular down" where the shoulder on the board is aligned with the > bottom of the lead keel and everything looks like it's lined up. > 2. "full down" is basically with no slack on the pennant, and the back > edge of the c/b where the pennant is attached is somewhat easier to > reach. > > Which are you having a problem with? > > Other info: > I don't think our (or your) c/b is leaded. I think it's just solid > fiberglass. The drawings that we all bought a year ago say nothing > about lead, but does say that it weighs somewhere around 400# or so. > > I have pictures of it all, hanging from the slings, somewhere. I'll dig > those up. > > -Keith M > C& 35-3 c/b > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Lias [mailto:lisal...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:18 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Centerboard issues > > Excellent information, Steve! > > Thank you very much! > > Ron and Lisa > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Steve Sharkey <stevebshar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > You might also check to see if the cable jumped out of the > center slot at the top of the board, so may not be running straight up > into the boat. The cable connects toward the top back edge of the board > runs over the top than up into the boat. The top of the board has an > indentation that helps the cable run true. If the boat has been in some > rough weather, which can cause the board to bounce up and down and > create slack in the cable it's possible for the cable to jump out of > this slot and lay to one side of the board. I've only had it happen > once, but it prevented the board from coming up fully. I just had to > swim under the boat with the board down ad reach my hand up and get the > cable back on track. Maybe in your case it's jamming in way that > prevents the board from going all the way down. > > It's also not that hard to fully remove the board from the boat. > There's a single pin that it pivots on. You need to locate it toward > the forward bottom of the keel, grind down the filling material that > will cover it on both sides of the keel to expose the pin and a large > nut. The board is heavy, so you need to support the centerboard and > then lift the boat up. > > Charlie is right - be sure to replace the cable. I've had mine > break on two different boats (one a 35 MKIII and my 37) and it always > happens at an inconvenient time leaving you with a deep draft boat. I > replace mine at least every 5 years as preventative maintenance. > > Steve Sharkey > C&C 37 > > From: Lisa Lias <mailto:lisal...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 5:47 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Centerboard issues > > Thanks for this. Aside from the effort involved in raising and > lowering, which could be because as you say, it's heavy, it doesn't go > quite all the way down. The possibility of critters did come up and it's > still possible, but the surveyor had his doubts and the previous owner > did make it a point to raise and lower the board regularly. Even so, > something is impeding free movement and jamming at the very end of > letting it down. > > Another possibility is paint build up. The board shows > striations through to old paint layers. > > Either way, we have to get in the trunk, it looks like. We don't > want to just leave it up after specifically seeking out a boat with a > centerboard. > > This will be one of the things that happens this winter. Thanks > again for the overview of how it would be done. We will let anyone who > is curious know what we discover in this process. > > R&L > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:01 PM, <cenel...@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Mine is a 1995 XL/kcb so YMMV. Plus there are others on > the list who may have an identical c/b model to yours. > > With those caveats, here goes: > > Your center board is probably a weighted board--not just > a piece of fiberglass. If it is anything like mine, it could weigh close > to 1000 lbs. > I have a 3:1 purchase and a #30 Lewmar self tailing > winch to raise mine and it is tiring. > > If it isn't weighted, your cb trunk may be filled with > living and dead sea creatures, especially if it was not moved up and > down much in the past. > > Of course it could be weighted and filled up with crud > as well!. > > If it is similar to the design used on my boat, the only > way to reach the inside of the cb trunk is to lower the board completely > until it rests on the forward part of the > trunk with the pennant (cb cable) completely loose. This > may mean undoing the cable stop mechanism on the cabin top and having > the boat in the travel lift during this > inspection/clean-out. > > Otherwise, the yard will likely need to dig a hole under > your keel to let it cb down completely. They will likely 'balk' at > having your boat up high enough on jack stands to do this without a > hole. > > Of course most yards are not fond of either of these > solutions! > > If you do lower the board completely, replace the > pennant and any fittings attached and inspect/replace if necessary all > the sheaves and water tight seals that define the path > of the pennant as it goes from the board to your > cabintop. These may be a little 'tired' after all these years! > > Also this is a good time to thoroughly > clean/paint/fair/etc. the keel/cb trunk and board. > > OTOH if you don't need/want the higher pointing ability > that the deep board provides, you could just 'pin' it in the up position > permanently and ...'forget about it". > > I know several C&C cb cruisers who have done this and > never worry about the board--especially if the cb trunk also serves as a > serious, shoal draft keel in its own right. > > Good luck and welcome to the list. > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > Greenville, NC > > > cenel...@aol.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Lias <lisal...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 2:32 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List 39 Mk1 again -> to Mazatlan > > > Thank you so much! We just got her moved to her new home > before Sandy hit. Quite a baptism, but she did fine. > > Now here's a question for those with centerboards: ours > is tight. It will go up and down but it's a bit of a job, (at least > compared with our 22 foot Rhodes we sold to help pay for this boat.) > > The surveyor didn't think it was anything major. But has > anyone else had this issue? Are we going to need to have the whole thing > taken out and out back in? If so, what is THAT like? > > Any input is appreciated, and thanks again for the > welcome. > > See some of you on the Bay, > > Ron and Lisa > un-named 35 mk III > Rhode River > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Joel Aronson > <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ron, Lisa, > Welcome and congrats! I have a 35/3 just north > of you on Mill Creek, and there is another person here with a 35/3 > centerboard in Rock Creek. > I've only had mine a year, but I've done a lot > of upgrades with a lot of help from the list, and would be happy to > answer any questions. > > Joel > 35/3 > The Office > Annapolis > 301 541 8551 > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Lisa Lias > <lisal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > We just got our 35 mk III - Greetings, > List! - but this made us drool. > > Ron and Lisa > 35 mk III, name change pending ceremony > Rhode River MD > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Russ & > Melody <russ...@telus.net> wrote: > > > Ditto! > > At 10:53 AM 02/11/2012, you > wrote: > > > I'm in. > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Frederick G > Street" <f...@postaudio.net> > To: > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Friday, November > 2, 2012 11:48:03 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List > 39 Mk1 again - rudder issue > > I'm in -- let's everyone > on the list go in for a few bucks, and we can timeshare... :^) > > It's 34F here right now. > > Fred Street -- > Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C > Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > > On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:47 > AM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > I noticed last > week that Outrider is for sale. It's tempting, that boat has been almost > totally fixed up, according to the listing. Mazatlan...nice and warm > this time of year. > > < > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26c-Sloop-2466572/Mazatlan/Mexico > <http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26c-Sloop-2466572/Mazatlan/Mexic > o> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C > Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo > Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com >
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