I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the new Beneteau 31. Trailerable. Lifting keel like a Seaward 32. New design that looks like a smaller First 367. Nice interior. And about $86k IIRC, without the trailer.
And if you really liked the J/30, what about a J/95. Should be fast, the interior may be on the sparten side like the older J/30s (my 25 has better interior appointments than the 3 J/30s I sometimes race against). And of course there is no such thing as an inexpensive J boat. But I hear it is a worthy successor to the J/30. From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Fast 30 foot trailerable Pat LS 30 is a pretty neat boat and a great price for that concept. I believe PHRF NE has it at 90. LS10 is also kinda neat but a retread of an older yet successful design. PHRF 132. Think of that as a modern J30 but at $79K is a bit much used. Only issues with LS30 are the very narrow beam and somewhat spartan interior - however the price uis very good Andrews 28 built only three hulls. One is for sale now on Yachtworld but is expensive. over $100K but a pretty interesting fast cruiser. Lots of great innovations and a very nice interior fro a lift keel trailerable boat. PHRF is under 90 as well Columbia 30 (not the old one), Bravuria Sportser 29, Archambault A27 (swing keel, under powered and heavy - but a good interior/spotboat look compromise - expensive), Antrim 27 .. these are all along the FT10 ideas with sportboat look/feel and varying levels of interior - mostly very little interior. Probably the best of the lot is the Antrim - LS30 may also be there but something about that boat seems a bit off to me - cannot put my finger on it ... I have been thinking along these lines for the past few months. Want a modern design that is fast but like having an interior at teh end of the day and when you want to sail along with your friends (or in this case - anchor and wait a couple hours for them). Yes - these boats can be expensive new. However my friend wanted a C&C 99 when they first came out and was waiting for them to age to affordability and he now has one (although they did buy new in the end). This entire exercise is nice because it is merely a game at this point but really helps to define what you (me) want in a boat and identify what is out there. The concept of a MacGregor 26 that is not water ballasted, does not sail like a pig, is ramp launchable, does have a functional interior, is fast, is cutting edge, etc ... is interesting and has been done and is possible. Interestingly during this process a couple of boats have jumped out at me for some of their features. J30 - it did all but the trailerability and retracting keel portions. C&C 101 - looks like a race boat (sort of) but still has a nice owners area forward of bulkhead and good crew accomodations and nice interior for lounging. C&C 25-1 ... one of my favourites - a whole lot of boat in a 25 ft package and very capable at a bargain price. There are others - my J/27 does an awful lot and is comfortable to sleep on, can be trailered, large cockpit, fun to sail, is fast(ish), etc ... but needs travellift or crane, has very cramped interior when not sleeping, and is old ... 1987 ... Still looking. Have not won the lottery so someone else will have to build it. Do think though that the Andrews 28 stretched out to 30 feet would do everything on my list .. if kept light _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Nevitt Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Fast 30 foot trailerable Mike, Agree, this is fun and somewhat relevant to me. I just sold my C&C 29-2. Well, I think I did. It made it through survey fine and I fixed a few minor items for the buyer. We are supposed to exchange title for cash on Sunday. I also recently sold my Lotus Elise. I owned both outright and so I find myself in the position of cash in hand and wanting another boat rather than another car toy. In the end, all the boats are a compromise. The boat that you described previously would be ideal, but I haven't found that yet. I like the FT10 and the prices aren't bad - just look at the two for sale on SA, but I'm concerned about build quality. Andrews 28 is awfully nice but at the extreme end of my price point. What do you think about the Landing School 30 (LS 30)? Not the LS 10, Tartan 10 remake.
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