Beneteau 31 is too slow to be a consideration. Even the Benneteau First 30, which ismore on the sporty side and pretty nice, hasn't done that well.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Rick Brass <[email protected]>wrote: > I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the new Beneteau 31. Trailerable. > Lifting keel like a Seaward 32. New design that looks like a smaller First > 367. Nice interior. And about $86k IIRC, without the trailer.**** > > ** ** > > And if you really liked the J/30, what about a J/95. Should be fast, the > interior may be on the sparten side like the older J/30s (my 25 has better > interior appointments than the 3 J/30s I sometimes race against). And of > course there is no such thing as an inexpensive J boat. But I hear it is a > worthy successor to the J/30.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt, > Mike > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:47 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fast 30 foot trailerable**** > > ** ** > > Pat**** > > **** > > LS 30 is a pretty neat boat and a great price for that concept. I believe > PHRF NE has it at 90. LS10 is also kinda neat but a retread of an older > yet successful design. PHRF 132. Think of that as a modern J30 but at > $79K is a bit much used. Only issues with LS30 are the very narrow beam > and somewhat spartan interior - however the price uis very good**** > > **** > > Andrews 28 built only three hulls. One is for sale now on Yachtworld but > is expensive. over $100K but a pretty interesting fast cruiser. Lots of > great innovations and a very nice interior fro a lift keel trailerable > boat. PHRF is under 90 as well**** > > **** > > Columbia 30 (not the old one), Bravuria Sportser 29, Archambault A27 > (swing keel, under powered and heavy - but a good interior/spotboat look > compromise - expensive), Antrim 27 .. these are all along the FT10 ideas > with sportboat look/feel and varying levels of interior - mostly very > little interior. Probably the best of the lot is the Antrim - LS30 may > also be there but something about that boat seems a bit off to me - cannot > put my finger on it ... **** > > **** > > I have been thinking along these lines for the past few months. Want a > modern design that is fast but like having an interior at teh end of the > day and when you want to sail along with your friends (or in this case - > anchor and wait a couple hours for them).**** > > **** > > Yes - these boats can be expensive new. However my friend wanted a C&C 99 > when they first came out and was waiting for them to age to affordability > and he now has one (although they did buy new in the end). This entire > exercise is nice because it is merely a game at this point but really helps > to define what you (me) want in a boat and identify what is out there. The > concept of a MacGregor 26 that is not water ballasted, does not sail like a > pig, is ramp launchable, does have a functional interior, is fast, is > cutting edge, etc ... is interesting and has been done and is possible.*** > * > > **** > > Interestingly during this process a couple of boats have jumped out at me > for some of their features. J30 - it did all but the trailerability and > retracting keel portions. C&C 101 - looks like a race boat (sort of) but > still has a nice owners area forward of bulkhead and good crew > accomodations and nice interior for lounging. C&C 25-1 ... one of my > favourites - a whole lot of boat in a 25 ft package and very capable at a > bargain price. There are others - my J/27 does an awful lot and is > comfortable to sleep on, can be trailered, large cockpit, fun to sail, is > fast(ish), etc ... but needs travellift or crane, has very cramped interior > when not sleeping, and is old ... 1987 ... **** > > **** > > Still looking. Have not won the lottery so someone else will have to > build it. Do think though that the Andrews 28 stretched out to 30 feet > would do everything on my list .. if kept light**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Pat Nevitt > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:10 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fast 30 foot trailerable**** > > Mike, Agree, this is fun and somewhat relevant to me. I just sold my C&C > 29-2. Well, I think I did. It made it through survey fine and I fixed a > few minor items for the buyer. We are supposed to exchange title for cash > on Sunday. I also recently sold my Lotus Elise. I owned both outright and > so I find myself in the position of cash in hand and wanting another boat > rather than another car toy. In the end, all the boats are a compromise. > The boat that you described previously would be ideal, but I haven't found > that yet. I like the FT10 and the prices aren't bad - just look at the two > for sale on SA, but I'm concerned about build quality. Andrews 28 is > awfully nice but at the extreme end of my price point. What do you think > about the Landing School 30 (LS 30)? Not the LS 10, Tartan 10 remake.**** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > >
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