I would agree with what Dwight said on a theoretical level. Heck, my
engineering training and boating experience gave me the same opinion before
I started asking around.

I don't really know what is in the Pettit two-part primer, but I know it
etches the metal and seems to form some sort of bond. Looks sort of like an
epoxy coating after it cures.

And I've seen the 4 bladed props on a friend's 35 ft trawler after a full
year of fishing, and there was still a good coat of black Trinidad Pro, no
noticeable erosion, and nary a barnacle. So somehow it works.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham
Collins
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

I have to disagree with that Dwight. My previous boat had a Volvo saildrive
with an aluminum prop.  It was original (20 year old) factory paint on it
when we got it, but the change in mooring location was enough to prompt a
few pounds of barnacles to live on it, which destroyed the paint Volvo had
applied.
After a couple of trials, what worked was applying Interlux Primocon and a
couple of coats of bottom paint, with the aluminum I had to use Tri-Lux II.
No issues with the paint coming off, I would just apply a new coat of
antifouling in the spring and never had to put on more primer.  I did not
see exposed metal anywhere, including the tips.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2013-01-08 8:05 PM, dwight veinot wrote:
> Sorry Rick
>
> But I don't think the primer will add much unless it too is an 
> antifouling paint.
>
> Under the influence of tip vortex and face sheet cavitations on the 
> prop blades, especially at high rpm, most paints will be removed, 
> regardless of and including most primers...IMHO best you can hope for 
> with antifouling paint is to give better fouling protection to the 
> shaft and hub of the prop where I believe the effects of cavitation 
> are less severe, and some shorter term protection to the blades which 
> I would suggest might last longer if the boat were driven at lower rpm 
> rather than full out
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Rick Brass
> Sent: January 8, 2013 7:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
>
> In North Carolina we don't have much problem with mussels, but the 
> relatively warm water, moderate currents and abundance of nutrition in 
> our rivers and sounds lead to constant struggle against a lot of
barnacles.
> Being a multiple boat owner, I've had a lot of experience over the 
> years and paid a lot for divers to clean my props.
>
> The last straw for me was when I took the 38 to Beaufort for some work 
> in the summer of 201. Hull speed is about 7.3 kts, and I motored down 
> there at 6.5+. Why not? The boat had been splashed just 3 months prior 
> and the bottom job was brand new. On the way home, about 3 weeks 
> later, I could make only about 4 knots. Man, were there a lot of 
> barnacles on the (unpainted) prop and shaft. And since I planned to 
> take the boat south it seemed like I better do something to avoid future
growth.
>
> Once I got the prop cleaned, and since I've already tried bottom paint 
> on the prop and shaft (it does not stick very long if you use the 
> motor very much - call it 100-150 NM of motoring in my case), I 
> started asking to see what others in the area do.
>
> The information that I got is that the commercial fishermen in the 
> area usually paint the prop and shaft after using a two-part primer 
> that will let the paint stick. The primer is a two-part product called 
> Pettit Metal Primer #6455. You clean all the old organic material off 
> the prop and areas of the shaft that will not be covered by the zincs 
> (I actually sanded with 80 grit until it was shiny and well scratched 
> up, but was told this was not necessary), mix the primer, and paint it 
> on. After 24 hours of cure time you put on bottom paint. The preferred 
> paint in these woods seems to be Pettit Trinidad Pro. I was told that 
> ablative paint like Micron 66 and Pettit Ultra will stick, but slough off
fairly quickly as the boat is used.
>
> The Pettit primer wasn't particularly cheap - about $65 IIRC for about 
> a pint of primer after mixing. But if it will make the bottom paint 
> stick it is probably a good value. And the local fishermen, who use 
> their boats 5 or
> 6 days a week pretty much year round, seem to swear by it.
>
> It's only been on my prop for 6 months or so, but so far I'm very 
> happy with the results.
>
> Of course, your results may vary.
>
>
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Abbott
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
>
> there is one more 'remedy' I have heard/read about......it involves
coating
> the prop/shaft with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen
this
> done and do not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop 
> (shouldn't be negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine 
> growth on my sacrificial zinc(s).
>
> Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint 
> on props?
>
> Bob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
>
>
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