I like the SS helicoil idea. I think it may make using the existing holes a little more difficult. I guess my feelings on the lag screws were that, they held those handrails in place for a VERY long time. So, it must be an acceptable way to install them. The Butyl is so pliable that it will flex like mad and not break the seal. I was trying to imagine a scenario like the doughnut idea. I guess that could work as will only squeeze into place at the end of the tightening process... I guess, 5200 with lags would be easiest, helicoils with Butyl would be ideal but alignment might be a problem (maybe not!) and would still have to utilize the doughnut method, and lags and butyl the happy medium? Also I guess I could expoxy in some studs, The the studs don't turn and butyl would be a lot more straight forward. The isse with that would be the attachment at the splash guard as that screw/bolt/stud is at a different angle than all the others. I guess that may still have to be a lag screw...
---------- Original Message ---------- From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Installing teak handrails Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 10:55:32 -0400 One thing I used on my other boat for installing deck hardware was barrel bolts. You can back them with fender washers and they are a very elegant solution. Far better than acorn nuts. AndyC&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone� +401 965 5260 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Bill Coleman <[email protected]> wrote: I put brass inserts in the wood, so now I screw 10-24 oval heads into it, much nicer than worrying about the wood stripping. Now I would probably epoxy embed SS helicoils, as I have used these other places with good results. I used 5200, as I notice most people step on these, usually when the boat is heeled. �Any screw would have trouble withstanding this torture, but the 5200 makes it solid. �And don't you crazy people start on me about 5200, it is not a problem. �I did this one year, removed them the next with a hot putty knife with no problem. �Re-installed the same way. �Some people have put a small countersink into either the deck or handrail, and used an O ring, which I think is a great idea if you plan on removing them often. �I am fine with sanding and varnishing once a year, takes very little time. Can't see a problem with Steve's Butyl either if you want to remove them often. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Hello again, As i'm getting closer to installing my new handrails, I have grown concern regarding the bedding compound. �My old handrails were lag screwed from the bottom. �I like this approach as it makes installing finished handrails a much less time consuming job. �There would be no need for plugging, sanding and re-finishing the plugs after installation. �I wanted to re-bed them using the method descibed on http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/rebedding_hardware. �However, the more I think about it, using the Butyl tape doesn't lend itself very well to using lag screws. �It seems to me you don't want the bolt/screw turning, as it would grab the Butyl and pull it out of place. �You know, that stuff likes to stick to itself and everything else. Wouldn't turning the lag bolt mess up the nice cone shaped blob you place for the countersink area? �... Am I overthinking this? �...should I go back to jolly 'ol 5200? ...should I reconsider through bolts and plugs and then have to deal with refinishing the plug areas. �I wouldn't mind but, the need to re-coat 8 times at 1 time per 24hrs really makes it tedious. �Especially, when it takes me 40 minutes to get to the boat. �Thats not much fun after work every day. �1 1/2 driving for 20 minutes of coating, not to mention the gas...LOL As always, I appreciate any and all opinions and insights, Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] --
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