I have a cheap, red, plastic floating winch handle from West Marine and will note if it's a Titan the next time I get to the boat. I've been using it for ~2 years on my 33-1 with a 145 genoa and 2-speed Bariant 26's. It's never come close to disintegrating on me - although I'm not the strapping lad I was from years back. I like the fact that it doesn't hurt my toes when I drop it.
bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > ** **************** > Thanks Dwight > > Just everyone remember - blue Titans are not all the good ones Dwight > has. The crappy floating red one also comes in blue -I have had two blue > and one red > > I use the 8 inch handles on a fractional rigged 27 ft boat. Much lower > loads than on a 35 ft masthead boat. I do agree they are not super high > quality - they are cheap and disposable which is why I have them. Not > enough load on my boat to bend the horizontal handle but have snapped off a > hand grip before. > > Red, Blue the floating ones are all the same .... > http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt/Sailing/Haulout_at_BBYC.jpg > > Yes - the alloy blue one Dwight has is a far superior quality - all but > the floating and cheap part > > Mike > > ------------------------------ > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *dwight > veinot > *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 5:40 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Titan winch handles > > Mike**** > > ** ** > > I don’t think I am nuts, but I only have experience with the red Titan > floating handle. Mine is labeled as follows “TITAN Made in ****Australia* > ***, pat pend”. It came to me with the boat along with about 8 other > winch handles, some the old heavy Barient ones, a few of which were lockers > so I had never used it in 9 years until last week…3 handles are more than > enough on my boat and one like the red Titan floater that I had definitely > classifies as junk on any boat. It had no reinforcing fibers of any sort > inside the foam in the handle; in fact the foam looked very much like > polyurethane insulation foam like the kind sold in a spray can which is > used around doors and windows to stop drafts…but it’s not just the foam > filled handle that is the issue, it’s also the locking mechanism which > appears to be a plastic covered piece of thin brass or bronze sheet metal > and the plastic appears to extend as a tube or bar all the way up to the > locking release lever…this twists under loading when the handle flexes and > accidentally goes out of plane placing some vertical loading on the locking > mechanism which easily releases from the winch and then when you’re not > expecting that too happen if you are not holding the handle tightly enough > the handle can launch right out of your hand and go flying on its own. > Quite seriously I can not and would not recommend using this type of Titan > floating handle for any purpose on any boat period. I will always be > careful about using any Titan handle on any boat I ever sail on. This > product did a serious disservice to the reputation of other Titan products > for me.**** > > ** ** > > Mike Hoyt if you have been satisfied with your 8 inch unit good for you…I > guess the name of your boat says it all!!! I just do not see the sense of > a winch handle which is purposefully made so weak as to be useless under > load and a possible hazard just so that it floats and sells at a cheaper > price…IMHO this is not a good application of plastic and foam.**** > > ** ** > > Again everyone, please be careful about using such Titan winch handles, > regardless of what colour they are**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Dwight Veinot**** > > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna**** > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt, > Mike > *Sent:* July 8, 2013 1:34 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Titan winch handles**** > > ** ** > > you guys are nuts. The floating ones are not all red - they come in > several colours including blue**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rick > Brass > *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 12:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Titan winch handles**** > > My understanding is that the red ones are resin filled with glass fibers, > the blue ones are cast aluminum (see Dwight’s post), and the gray ones are > resin and carbon fiber.**** > > ** ** > > I have had gray Titan handles on my 38 – a single handle grip for the > cabin top winches and a single handle in a pocket on the mast for reefing > and outhaul, and two of the double grip 10” handles in the cockpit for the > sheet winches – for almost 10 years now. I have to say I’m quite happy with > the strength and durability of the gray handles. **** > > ** ** > > That said, a crew member dropped on overboard during an event in Oriental, > NC some years ago; it floated but we didn’t go back for it. I suppose that > is benefit the benefit and the disappointment of having a floating winch > handle that only costs about $50.**** > > ** ** > > Rick Brass**** > > ****Washington**, **NC******** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > >
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