I don't know if it is possible with your boat, but mine has a little (quarter inch?) hole in the bow at the bottom of the locker. It vents outside and has a small piece of aluminum loosely attached over it to keep out the junk. But, I also have a big anchor locker with lid on the deck.

Gary
30-1
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Giannelia" <[email protected]>
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Thanks Don and everyone else, so it is my choice except if I use the same surveyor. They are all good suggestions and I will figure one out....

On the drain,

I am going to put one in, but there is no direct connection to the bilge, just seepage between hull liner and hull, so I will run a hose and let everyone know how it goes...

Thanks

ALEX GIANNELIA

CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED
ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006
Toronto Ontario


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  2. Re:  Anchor locker (Don Siddall)
  3.  Is it time to replace motor mounts? (TOM VINCENT)
  4. Re:  Re-constructing a HIN (Ronald B. Frerker)
  5. Re:  Re-constructing a HIN (Ronald B. Frerker)
  6. Re:  Re-constructing a HIN (Bill Bina)
  7. Re:  Is it time to replace motor mounts? (Martin DeYoung)
  8. Re:  Is it time to replace motor mounts? (Andrew Burton)
  9. Re:  Re-constructing a HIN (Ronald B. Frerker)
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:38:54 -0400
From: Don Siddall <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor locker
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HI Alex:

Based on our experience in the dark of night with a boat about to drift
down on us I have about ten feet of 1/4" line connecting the bitter end
of the chain anchor rode to a pad eye in my locker. If there is any risk
of a boat drifting down on us I place a fender on the foredeck. The
theory is that, if needed, I can quickly cut the line then tie it to the
fender that I will throw overboard. This way we can depart quickly and
pick up the anchor rode later.

The light line is only to prevent the anchor chain from departing from
the boat unintentionally and to connect the rode to the fender.

Don



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:46:33 -0400
From: TOM VINCENT <[email protected]>
To: C&C Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Stus-List Is it time to replace motor mounts?
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The vibration of the Yanmar 30 is annoying and I am thinking of having the motor mounts replaced. Is there any way to determine if the motor mounts are causing the vibration?

Tom Vincent
Frolic II 36' cb
Chesapeake City, MD

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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:37:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <[email protected]>
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Alex,
If you're still collecting data, we have a 35-2 here in STL. ?The owner gave me the following info: ?"My boat was built very near the time of the guy raising the issue.? I think my hull number indicates a 1974 model, but it was sold as a 1975 --? I guess because construction was not finished until 1975."
The HIN stamped on the starboard stern is: ?CCY353201074.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30



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If it was ever federally documented in the US, you can look it up.

By Doc number:
http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByID.html

By name:
http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.html

If it was registered only by a state, and not federally documented, you
can try here:
http://cgmix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXSearch.aspx

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:39:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't show my boat, but the CG registration number did.
Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
St. Louis




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If it was ever federally documented in the US, you can look it up.

By Doc number:
http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByID.html

By name:
http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.html

If it was registered only by a state, and not federally documented, you
can try here:
http://cgmix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXSearch.aspx

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:47:11 -0400
From: Bill Bina <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN
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If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the archive
DB.

Bill Bina

On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote:
An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't
show my boat, but the CG registration number did.
Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
St. Louis


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:52:26 +0000
From: Martin DeYoung <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Is it time to replace motor mounts?
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if the motor mounts are causing the vibration?<<

Having replaced Calypso's motor mounts a few years back and recently re-aligned the engine to the prop shaft, the motor mounts will either help transmit vibration or help absorb vibration.

If the vibration is about the same in neutral or in gear and your Yanmar is running normal, new and well-designed/installed motor mounts should equal a significant improvement.

If you notice extra vibration when in gear it may be that your engine/prop shaft alignment is off enough to cause the extra vibe. I installed the R&D motor mounts from PYI, Inc. and re-aligned a few years back. The R&D mounts replaced mounts that appeared to be over 20 years old (i.e. hard as a rock) and were poorly installed/modified. Immediately there was a significant improvement both at idle and underway.

During our recently completed haul out which included replacing the cutlass bearing we performed a complete re-alignment. (The new cutlass bearing changed the prop shaft angle slightly towards the center of the shaft log.) We needed to lower the engine ?" and move it to starboard 3/8". Once re-launched we headed out of the marina and ran some test circles and speed runs. The combo of a new cutlass bearing and the re-alignment decreased the overall vibration to a new low, likely better than we have experienced in the last 10 years.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TOM VINCENT
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:47 AM
To: C&C Forum
Subject: Stus-List Is it time to replace motor mounts?

The vibration of the Yanmar 30 is annoying and I am thinking of having the motor mounts replaced. Is there any way to determine if the motor mounts are causing the vibration?

Tom Vincent
Frolic II 36' cb
Chesapeake City, MD
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:53:38 -0400
From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]>
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I'm in the same boat( so to speak) and have arrived at the same conclusion: replace the engine mounts.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine (currently sailing at 6.8 with the kite up and the breeze just aft of the beam and Provincetown 12 miles ahead)

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA    02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:46, TOM VINCENT <[email protected]> wrote:

The vibration of the Yanmar 30 is annoying and I am thinking of having the motor mounts replaced. Is there any way to determine if the motor mounts are causing the vibration?

Tom Vincent
Frolic II 36' cb
Chesapeake City, MD
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN
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And then it would only show up with the CG registration number search???
That could explain some things; like why I don't get the yearly patch any longer. ?I thought it was just an admin change at the CG.
Ron



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From: Bill Bina <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN



If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the archive DB.

Bill Bina

On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote:

An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't show my boat, but the CG registration number did.
Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
St. Louis


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:08:40 -0400
From: Bill Bina <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN
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All I can tell you is that there is more than one database involved.
Owners of documented vessels receive an annual renewal form in the mail
that they must send in to keep the documentation active. There is no
renewal fee. You just sign the form and mail it back. If you have let
your documentation lapse, they have a way for you to apply to have it
re-instated for a fee. I believe there is a VERY substantial fine
($10,000) for operating a vessel with a lapsed documentation. If you
were documented at one time, and did not file the forms to have the
documentation removed, you are liable for the fine.

Bill Bina


On 7/29/2013 1:58 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote:
And then it would only show up with the CG registration number search???
That could explain some things; like why I don't get the yearly patch
any longer.  I thought it was just an admin change at the CG.
Ron


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*From:* Bill Bina <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2013 12:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN

If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the
archive DB.

Bill Bina

On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote:
An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't
show my boat, but the CG registration number did.
Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
St. Louis



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:19:30 -0400
From: "Bill Coleman" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>,   <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN
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<< There is no renewal fee.>>

Till next year, when it is $26 Bucks.  8^(



Bill Coleman

C&C 39 animated_favicon1



From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN



All I can tell you is that there is more than one database involved. Owners
of documented vessels receive an annual renewal form in the mail that they
must send in to keep the documentation active. There is no renewal fee. You
just sign the form and mail it back. If you have let your documentation
lapse, they have a way for you to apply to have it re-instated for a fee. I
believe there is a VERY substantial fine ($10,000) for operating a vessel
with a lapsed documentation. If you were documented at one time, and did not
file the forms to have the documentation removed, you are liable for the
fine.

Bill Bina


On 7/29/2013 1:58 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote:

And then it would only show up with the CG registration number search???

That could explain some things; like why I don't get the yearly patch any
longer.  I thought it was just an admin change at the CG.

Ron





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From: Bill Bina  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN



If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the archive DB.


Bill Bina

On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote:

An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't show my
boat, but the CG registration number did.

Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database.

Ron

Wild Cheri

C&C 30

St. Louis






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