John and others 

In the reply below you reference the problems from wet stainless in
oxygen deprived environment.  I have heard this comment several times
before also.

I am not aware of a large nimber of sailboats that do not have some
water in th bilge most if not all the time.  Since this is where the
kell bolts are torgued with the nuts it seem that this would count as
wet and oxygen deprived.  Am I missing something or are we all in
imminent danger?

Mike

Nut Case


-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John
and Maryann Read
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 5:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile

Hi Bill

If your keelboats are leaking, then your smile has progressed to the
point
of more than stuffing in some bondo and the need for some redoing the
keel /
sump seal itself to prevent leaks.  Remember that the keel bolts are
stainless which will degrade when wet in an oxygen deprived environment
which is what happens when the keel / sump seal is compromised.  A good
starting place would be get the opinion of your local fiberglass repair
shop.  I believe this subject is also well covered in the archives of
this
list as well as the DIY section of the photoalbum.

To be absolutely sure, the preferred process at haul out would be to 1)
lower the keel, 2)  clean, fair and prep the mating surfaces, 3)
reattach
the keel with a preferred adhesive / sealant, 4)  properly torque the
keel
bolts, 5) grind and fair both sides of the joint by at least a foot, 6)
apply fiberglass as a fairing, 7)  fair the fiberglass, 8)  apply
several
coats of barrier coat then bottom paint.

If this is too much, then you can try digging out all bondo and as best
you
can expose the joint as deeply as possible.  Clean it to provide a good
sealing surface.  Stuff in your sealant, then proceed at step 4.

Fiberglass tape provides negligible structural integrity.  The keel
bolts
and adhesive at the sump / keel joint do that.  The tape is to fair the
joint.  If there is insufficient structural integrity, the keel will
flex
and break the tape bond.

Hope this helps



John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT
-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Connon
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C smile

I've been fixing the smile with Bondo over the past few years. This
season
I've noticed that I'm getting some sea water into the bilge ( along with
rainwater that comes down the mast ). On haulout this year I'm planning
on
making a more permanent fix. Has anybody used G-Flex epoxy for this
project?
I plan on using thickened epoxy to fill the gap and then use wetted out
fibreglass tape to strengthen the joint. 
Comments, ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.

Bill
Caprice 1
1978 C&C 36

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