It seems to me that Mike even documented the install of one of these garboard drains online. I know I've run across it before.
Ken H. On 4 September 2013 14:46, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote: > ** > Good idea Bill except that the boat will sink .... > > Seriously though - I have put garbord drain in my last two boats. Very > difficult to put at absolute lowest part of bilge but it does ensure there > is never a serious water buildup over the off season. Water collecting in > a boat on the hard does nasty things > > Actually I install mine from the inside and completely fair over the > outside. There is no bulge or any trace of the garbord drain and it has > zero effect on flow over the keel this way. Previous boat I did from the > outside and there was a slight bulge. > > Mike > > ------------------------------ > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill > Coleman > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:10 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts > > Find the lowest part of your bilge and drill a hole then epoxy a > Garboard Drain/Plug in .**** > > ** ** > > Bill Coleman**** > > C&C 39 [image: animated_favicon1]**** > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan > Plavsa > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:00 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts**** > > ** ** > > Count me among those with water constantly in the bilge. The past two > winters with the boat out of the water there has been no evidence of a > smile but I have been concerned with the bilge and it always having water > in it. Keel stepped, when it rains, water in the bilge. Aside from that any > condensation in the boat, the stuffing box (which needs repacking), etc, > and I have water in the bilge, all the time.**** > > ** ** > > Steve**** > > Suhana, C&C 32**** > > Toronto**** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote: > **** > > John and others > > In the reply below you reference the problems from wet stainless in > oxygen deprived environment. I have heard this comment several times > before also. > > I am not aware of a large nimber of sailboats that do not have some > water in th bilge most if not all the time. Since this is where the > kell bolts are torgued with the nuts it seem that this would count as > wet and oxygen deprived. Am I missing something or are we all in > imminent danger? > > Mike > > Nut Case > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John > and Maryann Read > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 5:56 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile > > Hi Bill > > If your keelboats are leaking, then your smile has progressed to the > point > of more than stuffing in some bondo and the need for some redoing the > keel / > sump seal itself to prevent leaks. Remember that the keel bolts are > stainless which will degrade when wet in an oxygen deprived environment > which is what happens when the keel / sump seal is compromised. A good > starting place would be get the opinion of your local fiberglass repair > shop. I believe this subject is also well covered in the archives of > this > list as well as the DIY section of the photoalbum. > > To be absolutely sure, the preferred process at haul out would be to 1) > lower the keel, 2) clean, fair and prep the mating surfaces, 3) > reattach > the keel with a preferred adhesive / sealant, 4) properly torque the > keel > bolts, 5) grind and fair both sides of the joint by at least a foot, 6) > apply fiberglass as a fairing, 7) fair the fiberglass, 8) apply > several > coats of barrier coat then bottom paint. > > If this is too much, then you can try digging out all bondo and as best > you > can expose the joint as deeply as possible. Clean it to provide a good > sealing surface. Stuff in your sealant, then proceed at step 4. > > Fiberglass tape provides negligible structural integrity. The keel > bolts > and adhesive at the sump / keel joint do that. The tape is to fair the > joint. If there is insufficient structural integrity, the keel will > flex > and break the tape bond. > > Hope this helps > > > > John and Maryann > Legacy III > 1982 C&C 34 > Noank, CT > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill > Connon > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:26 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List C&C smile > > I've been fixing the smile with Bondo over the past few years. This > season > I've noticed that I'm getting some sea water into the bilge ( along with > rainwater that comes down the mast ). On haulout this year I'm planning > on > making a more permanent fix. Has anybody used G-Flex epoxy for this > project? > I plan on using thickened epoxy to fill the gap and then use wetted out > fibreglass tape to strengthen the joint. > Comments, ideas and suggestions would be appreciated. > > Bill > Caprice 1 > 1978 C&C 36 > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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