Paul,

Why fix the gooseneck?  The downhaul gives you more control.

Not sure about the J29, but J30 class rules require a reef point.  Many
owners have an unreinforced grommet to satisfy the rule and they don't race
if it is windy enough that they would need it.

Joel
35/3


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Paul Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

>  My main still has one, but it's an older sail.  It also has a cunningham
> at the other end, I can use both together as a small reef as well if I
> want.  I also have a sliding gooseneck so I'd guess this sail wasn't built
> for this boat specifically.  I like the range of controls that gives me
> over the sail and boom, although I will likely fix the gooseneck in the not
> too distant future.
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
>
> Orange Crush, 27MkII, Sidney, BC
> ex Tangerine, 24.
>
>
> On 14-02-07 06:48 AM, Richard N. Bush wrote:
>
> I used to race on a J-29 which had a reef point about a foot above the
> clew which we called a "flattening reef". Nothing was done to the tack of
> the sail, but it would really help with being over powered in short course
> racing; they have apparently gone out of vogue or are now called something
> different; anyone know why or what happened to them? Thanks
>
>  Richard
> 1985 37 CB frozen on the cradle....
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]><[email protected]>
> To: cnc-list <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 9:36 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing
>
>   If I don't feel like tying up the reef, I will pull (at least) the
> forward part of the excess sail to the weather side of the boom. That's
> puts an end to the flapping in most cases. If I put two reefs in, I make
> sure I pull on the first reef as well so the sail there's not as much sail
> hanging down.
>
>  Andy
>  C&C 40
>  Peregrine
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:29 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  And because they are not supposed to carry any load, the grommets for
>> the nettles are placed about 3" to 4" below a line drawn between tack
>> cringle and clew cringle.
>> That way they just neaten up the flapping, lower piece of sail that's
>> just been reefed. That's why there is only 1 or 2 thicknesses of Dacron to
>> strengthen that area where the reefing grommets are.
>>
>>  sam :-)
>>    *From: *dwight
>> *Sent: *Friday, February 7, 2014 7:16 AM
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Reply To: *[email protected]
>>  *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing
>>
>>  Absolutely correct Marek
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>  *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Marek
>> Dziedzic
>> *Sent:* February 7, 2014 10:02 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing
>>
>>   From what I know, the reef lines (going through cringles in the middle
>> of the sail) are not supposed to carry any load. They are there only to
>> prevent the reefed part of the sail from catching the wind and flying
>> around. Only the tack (reefing hook/Cunningham) and the clew (outhaul plus
>> lashing to the boom) are supposed to carry any loads. These little reef
>> lines can be done "later" if needed.
>>
>>  Marek
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:01:30 -0500
>> From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to
>> Message-ID: <030e01cf2397$c1cee7b0$456cb710$@net>
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>>
>> Dwight;
>>
>>
>>
>> I get that you use a reef tack cringle like a Cunningham to tension the
>> luff
>> of the sail. My main has "dog bones" for both the 1st and 2nd reef that go
>> over reef hooks on the gooseneck.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you do about the outhaul for the reef cringle on the leach of the
>> sail? And don't you need to put reef lines through cringles in the sail
>> and
>> tied around the boom to gather up and control the foot of the sail? Seems
>> the sail would be pretty baggy with the foot loose to billow out, when the
>> point in reefing is to keep the sail tight and flat.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>>
>>
>>
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