Couple of reasons really, one is that when I go to reef the damn gooseneck drops down and invariably gets stuck so I have to go forward to whack it again. Not ideal given the conditions that I have to reef. I also have a rigid vang which complicates things somewhat as it starts to act as a pivot point forcing the end of the boom up once the spring is compressed when pulling the gooseneck down. I had a chat with my sailmaker about it all, he recommended fixing the gooseneck and re-purposing the downhaul as a cunningham, which would also free up a line coming aft.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Aronson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 7:49:38 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now flalttening reef Paul, Why fix the gooseneck ? The downhaul gives you more control. Not sure about the J29, but J30 class rules require a reef point. Many owners have an unreinforced grommet to satisfy the rule and they don't race if it is windy enough that they would need it. Joel 35/3 On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Paul Baker < [email protected] > wrote: My main still has one, but it's an older sail. It also has a cunningham at the other end, I can use both together as a small reef as well if I want. I also have a sliding gooseneck so I'd guess this sail wasn't built for this boat specifically. I like the range of controls that gives me over the sail and boom, although I will likely fix the gooseneck in the not too distant future. Cheers, Paul Orange Crush, 27MkII, Sidney, BC ex Tangerine, 24. On 14-02-07 06:48 AM, Richard N. Bush wrote: I used to race on a J-29 which had a reef point about a foot above the clew which we called a "flattening reef". Nothing was done to the tack of the sail, but it would really help with being over powered in short course racing; they have apparently gone out of vogue or are now called something different; anyone know why or what happened to them? Thanks Richard 1985 37 CB frozen on the cradle.... Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]> To: cnc-list <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 9:36 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing If I don't feel like tying up the reef, I will pull (at least) the forward part of the excess sail to the weather side of the boom. That's puts an end to the flapping in most cases. If I put two reefs in, I make sure I pull on the first reef as well so the sail there's not as much sail hanging down. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:29 AM, < [email protected] > wrote: And because they are not supposed to carry any load, the grommets for the nettles are placed about 3" to 4" below a line drawn between tack cringle and clew cringle. That way they just neaten up the flapping, lower piece of sail that's just been reefed. That's why there is only 1 or 2 thicknesses of Dacron to strengthen that area where the reefing grommets are. sam :-) From: dwight Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Reply To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing Absolutely correct Marek From: CnC-List [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic Sent: February 7, 2014 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing From what I know, the reef lines (going through cringles in the middle of the sail) are not supposed to carry any load. They are there only to prevent the reefed part of the sail from catching the wind and flying around. Only the tack (reefing hook/Cunningham) and the clew (outhaul plus lashing to the boom) are supposed to carry any loads. These little reef lines can be done “later” if needed. Marek ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:01:30 -0500 From: "Rick Brass" < [email protected] > To: < [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to Message-ID: <030e01cf2397$c1cee7b0$456cb710$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dwight; I get that you use a reef tack cringle like a Cunningham to tension the luff of the sail. My main has "dog bones" for both the 1st and 2nd reef that go over reef hooks on the gooseneck. What do you do about the outhaul for the reef cringle on the leach of the sail? And don't you need to put reef lines through cringles in the sail and tied around the boom to gather up and control the foot of the sail? Seems the sail would be pretty baggy with the foot loose to billow out, when the point in reefing is to keep the sail tight and flat. 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