Tuff luff comes with a prefeeder and it attaches to forestay approx. 8 inches below where bolt rope enters the track
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:07 AM To: C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib (and folding a headsail properly) Just my 2cents. I have a Furlex 200 furler on my smaller boat and it has a bungee that is fed into one of the luff slots below where the sail enters the torque tube. The install manual has you secure the bungee (can't remember how) and then pull the bungee as tight as you can. Then while it is being held out, messure a predetermined distance, cut, and attach the prefeeder. With no sail the prefeeder is sucked in tight to the foil. As you are hoisting a sail the prefeeder is able to spring in and out to ease tension. Once the sail is up the prefeeder comes off the luff tape and retracts, once again, tight to the foil. If I had do it on a tuff luff I would engineer the bungee inside of a PVC pipe and rigging tape it to the stay below the tuff/luff. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Apr 3, 2014 9:15 AM, "Joel Aronson" <[email protected]> wrote: All, Thanks for the tips! I'm not going to attach it to the foil. I'll need to check the luff tapes, especially on the cruising jib. I have a feeling that it needs to be cut. I found a roller type feeder on board, so I'll try it first. Dennis is right about flaking the jib properly. The pre feeder helps, but only to a point. Hoping to sail on Sunday! Joel On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Dennis C. <[email protected]> wrote: Joel, Not sure what you have, furler, Tuff-Luff, etc., but here's my take on pre-feeders. First, highly recommended. They will greatly reduce the potential for ripping a luff tape. (more on that at the bottom). I have the Schaefer 1205-01 roller pre-feeder and love it. Second, attach it with 6-12 inches of line. Third, position it so it is 6-12 inches below the feeder. Cut your sails' luff tapes so the pre-feeder will fall off when the sail is fully hoisted. Make sure the pre-feeder doesn't flop over the side of the boat. So, that means you usually attach it to the Tuff Luff or furler. Mine is attached to the furler right at the top of the torque tube about 6-8 inches below the feeder. It drops off the tape and hangs free when the sail is hoisted. Now, the more on not ripping a luff tape. Nice for those listers that read this far and didn't hit the delete key. It is important, repeat, important, the the sail be folded correctly for hoisting. The luff tape must be folded on top of itself under the pre-feeder. When dropping a sail, the foredeck person should pull the luff tape directly down into the bow pulpit. The mast man should pull the leech downward and forward (not aft) and should work his/her way forward as the sail is dropped. The leech should NOT be pulled aft but should be pulled straight down. If the tape is pulled aft, it will force a sharp bend in the tape as it is fed through the pre-feeder and re-hoisted. (Please note that I have 20+ years of doing foredeck on several successful racing boats.) Sails that are in a sausage bag should be folded so the tape is on top of itself. To do that, the person at the luff makes a single fold while the person at the leech does nothing. This cocks the sail and will allow the tape to align. After that first luff fold, the two folders match folds with the leech folder working his/her way to the luff. The luff folder ensures that the luff tape folds back and forth on top of itself. This way the luff tape will be positioned in the bow pulpit directly under the pre-feeder. We have one race boat on my pier which always folds their headsail in a "cruiser" fold. That is, both folders work their way to the middle. The luff tape will have to come from the shrouds forward to the pre-feeder and then make a sharp bend to the feeder. This is a recipe for a ripped luff tape. I cannot stress how much sailmakers would love for sailors to rip luff tapes. It's $$$ for them. I also cannot tell you how nice it is for a sail to hoist easily because it was folded correctly for hoisting. On the other hand, try hoisting an improperly folded sail at 2 in the morning in 20+ knots and 4-6 foot seas and you'll curse the guy that folded it! Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote: All, I was thinking of mounting a jib pre-feeder on the foil for the furler, but i'm concerned about the sail chafing when the jib is partially furled. Should I just tie it to the chainplate so it is out of the way (but under foot) when the sail is up, or attach it to the foil. I have both dacron and Kevlar jibs. -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 <tel:301%20541%208551> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -- Joel 301 541 8551 <tel:301%20541%208551> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]
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