To clarify further (from Wikipedia):
> Device certification
> 
> Devices go through a certification process overseen by the NMEA, and are 
> permitted to display the "NMEA 2000 Certified" logo once they have completed 
> the certification process. The certification process does not guarantee data 
> content, that is the responsibility of the manufacturers. However, the 
> certification process does assure that products from different manufacturers 
> exchange data in a compatible way and that they can coexist on a network.
> 
> NMEA 2000 and proprietary networks
> 
> Several manufacturers, including Simrad, Raymarine, Stowe, the Brunswick 
> Corporation and Mastervolt, have their own proprietary networks that are 
> compatible with or akin to NMEA 2000. Simrad's is called SimNet, and 
> Raymarine's is called SeaTalk NG. Stowe's is called Dataline 2000. 
> Brunswick's is called SmartCraft. Some of these, such as SimNet and Seatalk 
> NG, are a standard NMEA 2000 network but use non-standard connectors and 
> cabling; adapters are available to convert to standard NMEA 2000 connectors, 
> or the user can simply remove the connector and make a direct connection.[2]
> 
> Trademarks
> 
> The term "NMEA 2000" is a registered trademark of the National Marine 
> Electronics Association. Devices which are not "NMEA 2000 Certified" may not 
> legally use the NMEA 2000 trademark in their advertising.
> 
The italics/underlining are mine.  Note the line in the first paragraph: just 
because a device is NMEA2000 certified, it doesn’t necessarily have to 
recognize all PGNs.

In the second paragraph, note that SeaTalkNG is basically just a repackaged 
NMEA2000 bus, but with non-standard connectors.  Part of the reason for this is 
that Raymarine added one more pin to their connectors that carries the legacy 
SeaTalk 1 data.

And this is the reason for the highlighting in the third paragraph: because of 
these variations from the NMEA2000 standard, Raymarine can not call SeaTalkNG 
“NMEA2000 certified” or even “NMEA2000 Compliant.”  In reality, for most things 
it works just fine.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 14, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Frederick G Street <[email protected]> wrote:

> Pete — both SeaTalkNG and NMEA2000 use the same data rate, on a CANBUS system.
> 
> As far as accuracy goes, if I recall correctly it seems like you had a bad 
> experience with data translation, where a particular NMEA2000 PGN wasn’t 
> getting translated to SeaTalkNG.  As Raymarine has updated its firmware, 
> those issues have pretty much disappeared.
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
> On Apr 14, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Pete Shelquist <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> “But it talks NMEA2000 pretty well”….if you’re not concerned with refresh 
>> rate and accuracy
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