The end plate effect is very real. I learned that long ago when windsurfing, if 
you can setup your sail so you can rake the sail back and the foot touches the 
board, you add power.. You can feel the acceleration immediately. Especially in 
winds below 15 knots. As the wind builds above that, everyone starts to achieve 
hull speed and the nuances of sail theory and fine trim are less critical. This 
leads me to believe that sails made for light winds should be fuller and deck 
sweepers and sails made for higher wind areas, should be flatter and high cut. 
My 2 cents. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 

----- Original Message -----

From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <[email protected]> 
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 5:08:47 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion 

Joel and Dennis, 
If you really want to understand the how of why of sail aerodynamics, I would 
suggest reading the book "the art and science of sails" by Tom Whidden. He 
thoroughly debunks the Bernouli theory as applied to sails. His theory is quite 
complex but well explained in the book and has nothing to do with pressure 
diferential of the Bernouli theory, but end plate effect is very important. 
James 
S/V Delaney 
1976 C&C 38 
Oriental, NC 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
To: Dennis C. ; [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:59 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion 

Dennis, 

My limited understanding of aerodynamics is that if the foot is not on the dock 
then the higher pressure is allowed to "leak" under the foot to the low 
pressure side, diminishing lift. That's why they now have tips on airplane 
wings. If the cabin causes upward deflection, that may be more than offset by 
maintaining the pressure differential. But either way, you are +6 sec./mile! 

Joel 
35/3 
Annapolis 


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < [email protected] 
> wrote: 

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I recently re-filed my PHRF certificate to get +6 seconds for a roller furler. 
Subsequently, I just had the luff my Mylar/Kevlar 155 cut down to fit on the 
furler. My sailmaker cut a bunch off the foot. 

I was chatting about loosing the sail area with one of the really good sailors 
in the club. He said it may actually be a good thing that the foot is higher 
off the deck. He said with the older narrow IOR designs, deck sweeper genoas 
may cause the slot to be less efficient. Might increase the bubble in the main. 

In my simplistic mind I kinda see where he's coming from. The slot gets 
restricted at the deck by the cabin. The lower part of the air flow would get 
pushed upward into the bottom of the main. A higher foot allows some flow to 
escape and keep the air flow lines smooth in the lower slot. 

Does this make sense? 

Dennis C. 
Touché 35-1 #83 
MandevilleLA 

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