Tim Thanks for this advice. I think mine is a standard rug like yours I have sheaves for two spin halyards but only have one halyard. Perhaps I should re purpose one of the jib halyards which never gets used! I am reasonably familiar with the Mexican on a j109 (asym and sprit of course) but not sure I can envision it with a pole and symetrical
With the j109 we unfurl the jib as we approach the mark and sheet it in tight on the starboard side (still approaching on a starboard tack (spin on the port side) As we gybe we harden up on the spin sheet and as we pass stern through the wind the main gybes and the spinnaker collapses into the tight ( port side ) of the job. Release the halyard, tack and sheet to douse spinnaker straight down hatch So my confusion is. with the sym spinnaker how to unfurl the jib on the starboard side with the pole in the way? Apologies to all for my ignorance! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Aug 3, 2014, at 16:10, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Jonathan, it sounds like you have a different setup to mine. Mine looks > exactly like the shop drawings, so is original (maybe an option?). We have > two spin halyards that exit slightly above the forestay with stainless > 'pipes' each side. That makes it easy to douse either side as long as > foredeck remembers which way round to untwist them. > > We had one race where we seemed to get something hung up on the douse. So now > we tend to release about 6" of halyard while the spin is full, which should > help you clear the forestay / swivel, but I think the best advice would be to > go for the 'Mexican' that others have described. It can get you a later drop > and means the sheets / guys can remain hooked up if you're OK with hatch > hoists. > > Tim > Mojito C&C 35-III > Branford, CT > >> On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks for all the help on this. >> >> I have another question - specifically for 35-III owners who fly a >> symmetrical spinnaker >> >> I usually do my first set with the pole to starboard and the chute going up >> using my only spin halyard which is on the port side - and the chute going >> up under the jib (starboard tack for a port rounding). After an odd number >> of gybes, I am dousing on the chute on the starboard side- with the halyard >> now over the top of the forestay ( on the 35-III the standard halyard >> sheaves are in line and not above the forestay tang). On more than one >> occasion, we have had great difficulty dousing the chute because of the way >> the halyard is being led over the forestay - potentially very dangerous. I >> am typically leaving the douse until I am almost at the leeward mark and >> have therefor started rounding up by the time we start bringing the kite >> down. I have to be doing something wrong! >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan >> Indigo C&C 35III >> SOUTHPORT CT >> >>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:54, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> We have a furler and dip-pole. We use a piece of velcro to hold the sheets >>> to the headstay below the drum. i'm not on the bow, but some very >>> experienced bowmen tell me its best on my boat. >>> >>> Joel >>> 35/3 >>> The Office >>> Annapolis >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List >>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>> I don’t think of it either. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course that is because I am old and way too heavy to be allowed on the >>>> bow >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Persistence >>>> >>>> Halifax >>>> >>>> (yet another “not a c&c” boat – however I do race regularly on a 115 so I >>>> guess that counts – and a 99 as well) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim >>>> Goodyear via CnC-List >>>> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 8:57 AM >>>> To: Indigo; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller-furled jib sheets and symmetrical spinnaker >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It really is up to the bow person to keep the jib sheets forward / above >>>> the pole / topping lift. It is not hard if the sheets are slack (no >>>> reason to keep them taught) and it's way, way easier with a furler than if >>>> you had dropped the jib. Just one other thing for bow to remember in the >>>> gybe. We don't even think of it these days. I'm assuming you're doing >>>> dip pole, not what Josh was describing? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> Mojito C&C 35-3 >>>> >>>> Branford, CT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Indigo via CnC-List >>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Still trying to get the hang of racing with a symmetrical spinnaker - and >>>> sorely in need of advice! >>>> >>>> I am setting up the pole with the lazy jib sheet over the pole and forward >>>> of the pole topping lift (taped back at the mast end of the pole) >>>> >>>> Set goes fine, then furl the jib. However after a couple of gybes, I find >>>> the jib sheets always need re-running before being able to unfurl the jib >>>> before douse. >>>> >>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jonathan >>>> Indigo C&C 35III >>>> SOUTHPORT CT >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> >>>> Email address: >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>>> page at: >>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> >>>> Email address: >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>>> page at: >>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joel >>> 301 541 8551 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>> page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>
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