Curtis,
My Atomic 4 runs pretty good on Captain Morgan's too, but at that point the
hell with the substitute use and just use the Captain Morgan's as the big guy
intended and worry about the stove later!!!!!!
James
1976 C&C 38
Delaney
Oriental, NC
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From: Curtis via CnC-List
To: Steve Thomas ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Alcohol stove
In a pinch my alcohol stove runs very well on Captain Morgan Private Stock
Rum. You just ant use a mixer. You will need to purge it afterwords for the
sugar content is high, ARRGGG!!!
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Different chemical.
Short chemistry lesson:
Methyl hydrate is an old name for methanol, which is a chemical compound
(molecule) consisting of one carbon, one oxygen, and four hydrogen atoms.
Ethanol, the alcohol we love to drink, has two carbon, one oxygen, and 6
hydrogen atoms in each molecule. In general, a hydrocarbon is a compound made
up of just carbon and hydrogen atoms. If you substitute an oxygen atom which is
also linked to a hydrogen atom for one of the hydrogen atoms in a hydrocarbon
molecule, you then have an alcohol. The -OH is know as a hydroxyl group, and
when attached to a hydrocarbon to form an alcohol, is responsible for most of
the resultant compound's chemical activity. Most but not all. That is why the
various alcohols are similar but different, and particularly different in how
toxic they are to humans.
Dwight might have something to add, but that is it in a nutshell.
Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
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From: JOHN D IRVIN via CnC-List
To: Marek Dziedzic ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Alcohol stove
How is methyl hydrate different?
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:04:41 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
My experience is that 95.6% is the most what you can obtain commercially
(or from any kind of distillation). You can get further only with molecular
sieves or by removing the remaining water using benzene or some other
substances.
The best (for drinking, if you are so inclined) is this one:
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/sakemitsui/item/vod-0007/ (btw. the web page
says incorrectly 96 degrees, it is 96%). In Canada, you can get it in Quebec as
Global Alcool, but it is "only" 94%.
However, I would not use it in a stove, as it would not be overly cost
effective. It has great applications for mixing drinks, though.
Marek
From: dwight
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:06 AM
To: 'Marek Dziedzic' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: RE: Stus-List Alcohol stove
Here is an article on ethanol versus methanol as a fuel. This article
concludes that ethanol is the more efficient fuel.
http://vincent02pd2011.wikispaces.com/Methanol+Vs+Ethanol+Fuel+Lab
and this article says that ethanol produces a higher flame temperature.
http://classroom.synonym.com/burns-hotter-ethanol-methanol-7848.html
Ethanol is hygroscopic and will absorb up to 5% moisture from the
atmosphere. It is difficult to obtain and store 100% pure ethanol.
Many chemicals can be used to "denature" ethanol, like methanol, acetone,
benzene, isobutyl ketone and most of these chemicals will make the denatured
ethanol poisonous , bad tasting, bad smelling or nauseating in order to
discourage human consumption
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: August 12, 2014 9:12 AM
To: Stevan Plavsa ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Alcohol stove
Steve,
try other marine stores. In Ottawa , The Chandlery, sells Capt. Phab 4l
for $21.50 (or $20 US)
(http://www.thechandleryonline.com/product_info.php?products_id=3331). I think
they would ship it, unless there is some funny restriction. They ship to the US
, as well.
Marine Outfitters out of Kingston carry it, too.
Btw. this is what I use in my stove and it burns extremely clean.
Marek
From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 10:36 PM
To: Rick Brass ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Alcohol stove
I found it hard to source denatured alcohol here in Toronto . I found it
at this place finally:
http://www.sculpturesupply.com/index.php
I paid something less than $25 for a 4 litre jug. Much better deal than
the stuff they sell at west marine.
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Denatured alcohol is all I've ever used in the stove on the 38 or the
Origo stove on the 25. About once a year I go to Lowes and buy a gallon can.
And one of these days I'll finally get around to installing the new
propane stove I bought for the 38 a couple of years ago. I'm told it is easier
to find propane than denatured alcohol when you are in the Bahamas or the
Caribbean .
Rick Brass
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On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:36, Burt Stratton via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
This my first go-around with alcohol stoves. Seems to work very nicely.
Cleaned it up filled it and brewed a big pot of coffee in no time. Is there any
reason not to use plain old denatured alcohol instead of stove cooking fuel?
Skip
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