I was worried about the definition of overlap in this rule.  Since we were 
effectively 90 degrees to each other, I did not know how you would define 
“overlap”.  If you project an orthogonal line outward from the bow and stern, 
they would not intersect the other boat.  Also, Dennis, I did lay the mark.  
Dave

On Aug 19, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Andrew Burton <[email protected]> wrote:

> 18.1 When Rule 18 Applies 
> Rule 18 applies between boats when they are required to leave a 
> mark on the same side and at least one of them is in the zone. 
> 
> 18.2 Giving Mark-Room 
> (a) When boats are overlapped the outside boat shall give the 
> inside boat mark-room, unless rule 18.2(b) applies. 
> (b) If boats are overlapped when the first of them reaches the zone, 
> the outside boat at that moment shall thereafter give the inside 
> boat mark-room. If a boat is clear ahead when she reaches the 
> zone, the boat clear astern at that moment shall thereafter give 
> her mark-room. 
> (c) When a boat is required to give mark-room by rule 18.2(b), 
> (1) she shall continue to do so even if later an overlap is 
> broken or a new overlap begins; 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:58 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am hoping that someone can clarify the actual rules related to an incident 
> that I was involved in last weekend.  The race was a “fun” race, so no 
> yelling, but I did not know who had rights.  We had huge wind shifts 
> approaching the windward mark and I was in a position where I was close 
> hauled, just making the mark (to port) on starboard tack.  A much larger boat 
> was approaching the mark also on starboard tack but from a different 
> direction.  He had vastly over stood the mark due to the wind shift so he was 
> coming in on a reach and due to get there at the same time as me.  We both 
> entered the zone around the mark at about the same time although he was going 
> faster so it was hard to tell.  After several polite requests, he gave me 
> inside room.  Who has rights in that situation since there was never really 
> an overlap until we both got to the mark?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
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