(save that one time when my outboard quit when turning into the fairway)

Which is exactly why I advocate practicing sailing in! We lose these skills
over time, so practice is necessary and far from irresponsible. Nothing
says we have to come charging in at hull speed. Try approaching with just
the jib or just the main up--it's part of getting to know your boat. It
sure beats waiting for SeaTow as your boat drifts down an grounds on the
jetty.

And in a man overboard situation, I absolutely would prefer to use the
engine. Unless it was too rough, or as very often happens in the kefuffle
of a man overboard, a line wraps around the prop. That's the reason we
ALWAYS practice MOB retreival under sail.


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>   Just to make sure, I am far from advocating using sails to enter
> marinas. I think that in most cases this would be just irresponsible. And I
> use the engine every time coming in (save that one time when my outboard
> quit when turning into the fairway) or going out and when anchoring etc.
> And I bet that most of us would prefer to use the engine in a MOB situation
> than do it under sails alone.
>
> The harbours got more crowded, the slips narrower, the skills required did
> not get better and the engines did. Not to mention that we very often sail
> shorthanded.
>
> This does not take away from the fact that not that long ago even bigger
> vessels operated without the auxiliary power and somehow managed to do that.
>
> Marek
>
>  *From:* dwight via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:57 AM
> *To:* 'Russ & Melody' <russ...@telus.net> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?
>
>
> Guess I am missing something here…maybe I don’t understand what is meant
> by “marina”.  I know it is possible to dock a 35 footer like Alianna at a
> “marina” using sails only and I have done it a time or two but under
> unfavorable wind conditions due to direction or strength in such close
> quarters I prefer to use auxiliary power and have my sails down and packed
> away before going to the dock or maybe I am missing what auxiliary power
> means to anyone in craft not outfitted with sails…or maybe I have just
> become more of a whimp and less of a purest as I grew older…hell I even
> prefer auxiliary power when tieing up to a mooring in a crowded mooring
> field and sailing off a mooring in a crowded field in some wind conditions
> can also be tricky and unnecessarily risky
>
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35MKII, Alianna
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ
> & Melody via CnC-List
> *Sent:* August 28, 2014 1:47 AM
> *To:* Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?
>
>
>
>
> In my olden days as a member of the Yacht Club's Executive Committee,
> business was brought forth to propose that sailboats must use engines in
> the marina (or something to that effect).  I pointed out that engines are
> auxiliary power on sailboats and if we are to endorse this business I will
> push that ALL vessels operating in the marina are required to use auxiliary
> power.
>
> That was the end of discussion.
>
> Good times.
>
>         Cheers, Russ
>         *Sweet *35-1
>
>
>
>
> At 07:42 PM 27/08/2014, you wrote:
>
>
>  In the olden days, when I was getting my skippers certificate, we had to
> do all the manoeuvres, including getting in and out of the slip, without
> the use of the engine (and then again using it). But that art is gone. Now,
> if I tried to dock under sail there would be a crowd with pitchforks
> awaiting me on the dock (possibly with some boiling tar and a few (Canada)
> gees on the side).
>
> Marek
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:33 PM
> *To:* Jerome Tauber; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without?
>
> Under the watchful and at times frightened eyes of my neighbors, I have
> been routinely sailing into the slip without turning on the good 2QM.
>
> Phase II: Learn how to get out of the slip under sail...
>
> Cheers,
> Aaron R.
> 1979 30-MK1
> Annapolis, MD
>
> On Aug 27, 2014, at 4:09 PM, "Jerome Tauber via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I thought C&C owners only use their engines to get in and out of
> docks.     Jerry. C&C 27v J&J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 27, 2014, at 3:00 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Curious...is all the effort worth it?
>
> David F. Risch
>
> 1981 40-2
>
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
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